Find Charges for Red and Yellow Sphere at Origin

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The problem involves a blue sphere with a positive charge fixed at the origin, a red sphere with an unknown charge positioned at (d_1, 0), and a yellow sphere with an unknown charge located at (d_2 cos(θ), -d_2 sin(θ)). The net electric force on the blue sphere is directed in the negative y-direction, prompting questions about the nature of the charges on the red and yellow spheres.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the net force direction on the charges of the red and yellow spheres, questioning whether the red sphere must be positive and the yellow sphere negative. There is also consideration of the distances d_1 and d_2 and how they affect the forces involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationships between the charges and the forces they exert. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of the charge signs based on the net force direction, but there is no explicit consensus on the charge values due to the lack of information about their magnitudes.

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Participants note that the relative sizes of the charges would significantly influence the problem, and there is uncertainty regarding the distances d_1 and d_2, which are not specified.

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blue sphere is fixed at the origin with positive charge q,
a red sphere fixed at the point (d_1,\,0) with unknown charge q_red, and
a yellow sphere fixed at the point (d_2\cos(\theta),-d_2\sin(\theta)) with unknown charge q_yellow.

The net electric force on the blue sphere has a magnitude F and is directed in the - y direction.

Is the charge for the red sphere positive or negative? Is the charge for the yellow sphere positive or negative?


Since the blue sphere is positive and the net force is in the -y direction wouldn't the red sphere be positive, making the force on the blue sphere by the red sphere to the left and the yellow sphere be negative making the force go down and to the right, and since the yellow sphere is closer its force magnitude on the blue sphere would be bigger than that of the red sphere making the net force point in the -y direction?
 

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Hi Stephen! :smile:
StephenDoty said:
Since the blue sphere is positive and the net force is in the -y direction wouldn't the red sphere be positive, making the force on the blue sphere by the red sphere to the left and the yellow sphere be negative making the force go down and to the right,

That's right! :smile:
and since the yellow sphere is closer its force magnitude on the blue sphere would be bigger than that of the red sphere making the net force point in the -y direction?

But we don't know the relative size of d_1 and d_2 …

or is there something you're not telling us? :smile:
 
I regurgitated all of the information I was given on the problem. The size of the charges would have made this problem much easier.

So would the red sphere be positive and the yellow sphere be negative?
 
StephenDoty said:
I regurgitated all of the information I was given on the problem. The size of the charges would have made this problem much easier.

So would the red sphere be positive and the yellow sphere be negative?

Yes! :smile:

(i already said that … )

hmm … I can see the picture at last …

yes, the yellow sphere certainly does look closer …
StephenDoty said:
and since the yellow sphere is closer its force magnitude on the blue sphere would be bigger than that of the red sphere making the net force point in the -y direction?

you don't need this … the question doesn't ask for it …

you've already given a fully satisfactory answer …

and the yellow force might be bigger because the yellow charge is bigger … :smile:
 

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