Find dy/dx for Implicit Differentiation of cos(xy^2)-(x^3+y)/(x+1)=sec(x)sin(y)

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The discussion revolves around finding dy/dx using implicit differentiation for the equation cos(xy^2) - (x^3+y) / (x+1) = sec(x)sin(y). Participants express challenges with the differentiation process and managing the resulting expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to apply implicit differentiation but encounter difficulties with the quotient rule and isolating dy/dx. There are questions about correctly applying the differentiation rules and simplifying the resulting expressions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on correcting errors in the differentiation process and suggested bringing all dy/dx terms to one side for simplification. There is an ongoing exploration of how to manage the complexity of the expressions generated.

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Participants note the presence of multiple dy/dx terms and express uncertainty about how to simplify the resulting equations. There is a recognition of potential cancellations that may occur upon expanding the expressions.

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assistance asap is needed !

Using implicit differentiation, find dy/dx given that:
cos(xy^2) - (x^3+y) / (x+1) = sec(x)sin(y)

i am horrid at these, i came up with a few lines, please check them

-sin(xy^2)[(y)^2+(2y)(dy/dx)(x)] - [ {(3x^2)(x+1)-(x^3+y)} / (x+1)^2] = sec(x)tan(x)sin(y) + cos(y)sin(y)(dy/dx)

after this line i have no idea what else i can do with this, it looks just looks like a huge mess to me.
 
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You seem to have left out the y (in the numerator) while using the quotient rule, and you need a sec(x) (not sin(y) - second term RHS).

Try to bring the dy/dx s to one side and see if the rest of the expressions simplify, somehow.
 
so it would look this so:

-sin(xy^2)[(y)^2+(2y)(dy/dx)(x)] - [ {(3x^2)(x+1)(dy/dx)-(x^3+y)} / (x+1)^2] = sec(x)tan(x)sin(y) + cos(y)sec(y)(dy/dx)


so many dy/dx 's should i still try and bring them all on one side?
 
MrRottenTreats said:
so it would look this so:

-sin(xy^2)[(y)^2+(2y)(dy/dx)(x)] - [ {(3x^2)(x+1)(dy/dx)-(x^3+y)} / (x+1)^2] = sec(x)tan(x)sin(y) + cos(y)sec(y)(dy/dx)

You missed the dy/dx again...

{(3x^2 + dy/dx)(x+1) - (x^3+y)} / (x+1)^2

so many dy/dx 's should i still try and bring them all on one side?

Yes, if the question requires it. I think many terms will cancel if you expand the expression on both sides.
 
ok i get that now, but when i try to isolate the dy/dx the big bracket is too hard to get the (dy/dx) out of..

this is what i got when i expanded it.

[{(3x^3)+(3x^2)+(x)(dy/dx)+(dy/dx)-(x^3)-(y)} / (x+1)^2 ]

then only 2 terms in then can be groups the 3x^3 - x^3 and i don't know where to do for the rest of it..
 

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