Find f'(5) for f(x)=g(h(x)) & [g(x)]3

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative f'(5) for two functions: f(x) = g(h(x)) and f(x) = [g(x)]^3, given specific values for g and h at x = 5.

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  • Participants explore the application of the chain rule for both functions, with attempts to differentiate f(x) = g(h(x)) and f(x) = [g(x)]^3. Questions arise regarding the need for g'(3) and the correct application of the power rule.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the differentiation process, while others express uncertainty about the next steps, particularly regarding the lack of information for g'(3). There is recognition of the need to evaluate expressions derived from the differentiation attempts.

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Participants note the absence of a value for g'(3), which is critical for completing the derivative calculation for f'(5) in the context of the first function.

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Homework Statement


Let
g(5)=-3
g'(5)=6
h(5)=3
h'(5)=-2

Find f'(5) for f(x)=g(h(x))
Find f'(5) for [g(x)]3

The Attempt at a Solution


Find f'(5) for f(x)=g(h(x))
g'(h(x))*h'(x)
g'(3)*-2

But I don't know where to go from there because I'm not given g'(3).

Find f'(5) for [g(x)]3
I was thinking just to use the power rule, but it wasn't right
3g(x)2
3(-3)2
 
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DollarBill said:

Homework Statement


Let
g(5)=-3
g'(5)=6
h(5)=3
h'(5)=-2

Find f'(5) for f(x)=g(h(x))
Find f'(5) for [g(x)]3

The Attempt at a Solution


Find f'(5) for f(x)=g(h(x))
g'(h(x))*h'(x)
g'(3)*-2

But I don't know where to go from there because I'm not given g'(3).

Find f'(5) for [g(x)]3
I was thinking just to use the power rule, but it wasn't right
3g(x)2
3(-3)2
You had the right idea, but you lost you equation, and so lost your way.
  1. Start with the equation for f(x). f(x) = ...
  2. Find f'(x). This should be an equation. f'(x) = ...
  3. Evaluate f' at x = 5. f'(5) = ... To do this, you'll need the function values in your problem statement.
Mark
 
For the second one think of it like any ordinary chain rule problem. [g(x)]^3 = h(g(x)) where h(x) = x^3.
 
Mark44 said:
You had the right idea, but you lost you equation, and so lost your way.
  1. Start with the equation for f(x). f(x) = ...
  2. Find f'(x). This should be an equation. f'(x) = ...
  3. Evaluate f' at x = 5. f'(5) = ... To do this, you'll need the function values in your problem statement.
Mark
I'm actually not quite sure what you mean...

1. Start with equation: f(x)=(g(h(x))
2 Find f'(x): f'(x)=g'(h(x))*h'(x)
3.f'(5)=g'(h(5))*h'(5)
4.f'(5)=g'(3)*-2

And I'm pretty much where I was before...
 
SticksandStones said:
For the second one think of it like any ordinary chain rule problem. [g(x)]^3 = h(g(x)) where h(x) = x^3.
Didn't see your reply before. Thanks, but I'm still not sure about the first one.

I'm always wary of going with a "None of the above" type answer.
 
DollarBill said:
I'm actually not quite sure what you mean...

1. Start with equation: f(x)=(g(h(x))
2 Find f'(x): f'(x)=g'(h(x))*h'(x)
3.f'(5)=g'(h(5))*h'(5)
4.f'(5)=g'(3)*-2

And I'm pretty much where I was before...
Not really. You have an expression for f'(5). Take another look at the information that was given in the problem to make sure you have all of the given information and that you have included it in this thread. If so, and the problem didn't give you a value for g'(3), then you have done everything that you can and -2*g'(3) is the value for f'(5).
Mark
 

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