Find Io in the network nodal analysis

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The discussion revolves around finding the current Io in a circuit using nodal analysis. Participants are exploring the application of various circuit analysis techniques, including KCL, KVL, and Ohm's Law, in the context of a given circuit diagram.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of nodal analysis and express uncertainty about how to start. Some suggest working backwards from the output to determine voltages and currents. Others attempt to set up equations based on KVL but question the direction of currents and the correctness of their equations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants providing guidance on how to set up equations and apply circuit laws. Multiple interpretations of the circuit and its components are being considered, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention confusion regarding the direction of current and the application of voltage sources in their calculations. There are also references to specific junctions and routes in the circuit that may affect the analysis.

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"Find Io in the network" nodal analysis

Homework Statement

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8807/homeworkprob22.jpg Find Io in the network

Homework Equations


V = IR

current division, voltage division,

KCL, KVL

Nodal Analysis (or mesh)

The Attempt at a Solution



So I think I need to use nodal analysis for this problem but not sure where to start with that.I think it goes something like

24V - 12V = (2Ω)(I2), but not sure at all. Do you use KVL / KCL at all? If yes, then how can I apply it here?

Tips for more places to start would also be helpful.Thank you
 
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No need to invoke nodal analysis here. Just work backwards from the output and fill in voltages and currents as you go. For example, with 24V at the output, what's the current through the 4Ω resistor? What then is the current through the 2Ω resistor? What's the potential change across the 2Ω resistor? So then the potential at the top of the 18Ω resistor is... continue in that vein. Employ KVL, KCL, Ohm's Law, as required.
 


so redrawing it like this:

http://imageshack.us/a/img96/8173/homeworkprob22edit.jpg I can't really tell which direction goes which and if I add or subtract that good with KVL but would this be on the correct track? :24V - (4Ω)(I1) = 0

(4Ω)(I1) - (2Ω)(I2) - (18Ω)(I3) = 0

(18Ω)(I3) - 12V = 0

(2Ω)(I4) + (4Ω)(I5) = 0

Io = 2A + I5 + I3 + I1 ?

Where would I go from here or are there mistakes?(and this was meant to go in the Engineering forum not physics forums by the way, because I was tired, heh)
 
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Color_of_Cyan said:
(4Ω)(I1) - (2Ω)(I2) - (18Ω)(I3) = 0
That doesn't look right in relation to the arrows shown for the currents. Try again.
 


I can't really tell which would be negative / positive in the equation though, any tips?

How about (2Ω)(I2) - (18Ω)(I3) + (4Ω)(I1) = 0, for the one you said?
 


Labelling the junctions T1 to T4 in the top row and B1 to B4 in the bottom row, the diagram shows two routes from T3 to B4. The voltage drop must be the same in both routes.
 


So, you can say (4Ω)(I5) = (2Ω)(I4) = 12 V then ?

Would that make I4 = 6A and I5 = 3A?Not sure what to do with 2 voltage sources in regards to finding current through a resistor.. (ie how would I find the current through the 2Ω resistor ? )
 
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