Find voltage using nodal analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around using nodal analysis to find the voltage V_2 in a circuit. Participants are addressing a homework problem that involves applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and solving a system of equations based on node voltages.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their approach to the problem, including choosing a reference node, assigning node voltages, and applying KCL to each non-reference node.
  • Another participant suggests that the KCL equation at node 2 is incorrect and emphasizes the importance of writing equations that sum to zero to avoid mistakes.
  • A third participant agrees that their KCL working for node 1 is correct but also recommends a specific format for writing KCL equations to minimize errors.
  • A later reply identifies errors in both KCL equations, noting that the 10 V battery was not included in the equation for node 1, leading to a correction that produces the right answer.
  • One participant reports finding approximate values for V_1 and V_2, indicating their calculations differ from the original poster's expectations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the KCL equations, with some agreeing on the need for careful notation while others identify specific errors in the original equations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the final values of V_1 and V_2, as participants report different results.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the circuit configuration and the dependence on the definitions of current direction and voltage references. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps leading to the final voltage values.

Martin V.
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Homework Statement


Assignment: Find V_2 using Nodal Analysis

Homework Equations


KCL
U=R*I

The Attempt at a Solution


- Chosen reference node
- Assigned node voltages
- Applied KCL to each non-reference node
- Solve system of equation
- Checked equations for obvious errors

See circuit drawing, node labels and assumed current direction in Nodal.png. Equation and solution of equation is to find in Nodal 2.png.

The right result should be that V_2=13,84V and not V_1 as I get.
 

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Not sure if this is the only mistake but KCL at node 2 is wrong...

Personally I prefer to write for my KCL equations to sum to zero so I would write...

Assume current leaving a node is +ve then..

+ I4 + I5 = 0
and
I4 = -I5

You might be tempted to skip steps but you have to be very fussy about the signs when applying KCL or KVL. I find I make fewer mistakes if I write my equation so it sums to zero and don't take shortcuts.
 
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Your working for KCL at node 1 looks correct but I would write..

Assume current leaving the node is +ve..

-I1 + I2 +I3 = 0

Then rearrange it. It may seem fussy but by sticking to this version of the KCL definition I find I make few mistakes.
 
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Both KCL-equations is wrong. With #2 is found the error in the equation around node 2. For node 1 were the 10 V battery not included in the equation. With the two change I get the correct answar - thanks! :)
 

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I agree with Martin V. I found ##V_1\approx10.2426...(V)## and ##V_2\approx13.9012...(V)##.
 

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