Find Local Maxima/Minima of y=f'(x) from y=f(x)

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The discussion revolves around identifying local maxima and minima of the derivative function y=f'(x) by analyzing the original function y=f(x). The context involves concepts from calculus, particularly concerning inflection points and concavity.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between inflection points on y=f(x) and local extrema on y=f'(x). Questions arise about the necessity of the second derivative for identifying inflection points, and whether plotting the original function can suffice for this analysis.

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Participants are engaging in a productive exploration of the concepts, with some suggesting alternative methods for identifying inflection points without relying solely on the second derivative. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in understanding these relationships.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the need for the second derivative to locate inflection points, indicating a gap in understanding that some participants are attempting to clarify.

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Homework Statement


Explain how you can locate the local maxima and minima for the graph of y=f '(x) by examining the graph of y=f(x).

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In the back of the book the answer reads:
If there is an inflection point on the graph of y=f(x) at x=c, then f(x) must change concavity at x=c. Consequently, f '(x) must change from increasing to decreasing or from decreasing to increasing at x=c, and x=c is a local extremum for f '(x). If there is an inflection point on the graph of y=f(x) at x=c, then f(x) must change concavity at x=c. Consequently, f '(x) must change from increasing to decreasing or from decreasing to increasing at x=c, and x=c is a local extremum for f '(x).


I must be missing something. Don't you need to know the second derivative in order to know where the inflection points actually are?
 
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Maybe they're just asking you to locate, by actually plotting y=f(x), its inflection points.
 
Well, not by plotting a specific function, but just explaining that at an inflection point, the graph changes from "convex up" to "convex down". Typically we find the second derivative, in order to find the inflection points, in order to tell where the curve changes convexity. The point of this problem is we can do it, at least roughly, the other way. If we look at the graph and can see where it changes convexity, we can see where the inflection points are (and, so, where the second derivative is 0).
 
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ohh alright. thanks ivy.
 

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