Find Net Electric Field Between Two Point Charges

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net electric field between two point charges, specifically focusing on the function of the electric field E(x) as influenced by the positions of the charges and the variable x. The original poster presents a specific scenario with given charge values and distances, seeking clarification on the correct application of the electric field equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the correct interpretation of the variable x in the context of the electric field equation, questioning whether negative values of x correspond to positions left of the first charge. There is discussion about the correct formulation of the electric field equation, including the treatment of distances to each charge and the signs associated with their contributions to the net field.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the correct formulation of the electric field equations for different regions relative to the charges. Some participants express understanding of when to add or subtract the contributions from each charge based on their positions. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple interpretations and clarifications are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for discussion. The original poster's confusion regarding the signs and distances in the electric field equation indicates potential assumptions that need further examination.

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Homework Statement


In the figure, two point charges q1 = 3.40×10-5 C and q2 = 1.70×10-4 C are separated by a distance d = 0.10 m. Compute their net electric field E (x) as a function of x for the following positive and negative values of x, taking E to be positive when the vector E points to the right and negative when E points to the left. Plot your values in your notebook.
What is E(-0.100)?

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Homework Equations


E(X)=k[(q1/x^2)-(q2/(d+x)^2)]

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the above equation, but the answer was wrong. When E(-0.100), does that mean the x in the equation is also negative? I get the feeling I've messed up some of the signs.
 
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There are two things wrong with you relevant equation.
  1. If you want the magnitude of the field due to a charge, you need the distance to that charge. That is correct for q1 in your equation, but not for q2
  2. The minus sign in your equation is only valid in 0 < x < d because there the field from q1 points to the right (positive x direction) and from q2 to the left.
 
When it says E(-0.100), does that mean the x value of -0.100, as in a point on the x-axis to the left of q1? (-0.100, 0)

For your first point, are you saying that it should be (d-x)^2?
Second point, that the two fractions should instead be added?
E(X)=k[(q1/x^2)+(q2/(d-x)^2)]
 
When it says E(-0.100), does that mean the x value of -0.100, as in a point on the x-axis to the left of q1? (-0.100, 0) -- Yes

For your first point, are you saying that it should be (d-x)^2? -- Yes. Better: (x-d)2

Second point, that the two fractions should instead be added? --- Yes/No:

To the right of a charge q/x2 points to the right
To the left of a charge q/x2 points to the left​

To get it in one expression, we often use this notation : ##\vec E(\vec r) = k\; q\; {\displaystyle \vec r\over |\vec r|^3}##

q itself also has a sign. In this exercise both q1 and q2 are positive. So

x< 0 both point to the left => add and put a minus sign in front
0<x<d q1 to the right, q2 to the left (as in your original relevant equation E(X)=k[(q1/x2) - (q2/(d-x)2)] )
d<x both point to the right => add (so indeed E(X)=k[(q1/x2) + (q2/(d-x)2)] )​

Make a drawing !
 
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E(x<0)=-k[(q1/x^2) + (q2/(d-x)^2)]
E(0<x<d)=k[(q1/x^2) - (q2/(d-x)^2)]
E(d<x)=k[(q1/x^2) + (q2/(d-x)^2)]

These equations all worked! Thank you so much for explaining it all to me, I think I actually understand now why you would subtract vs. add!
 

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