Find Oil Density in Open Tank with Horizontal Bottom

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an open tank divided by a vertical gate, where water and oil exert pressures on either side of the gate. Participants are exploring how to determine the density of the oil based on the equilibrium condition of the gate, considering the depths of the liquids and the forces acting on the gate.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the setup of the problem, noting the dimensions of the gate and the depths of water and oil.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for the original poster to show their work, indicating that the forum is not for simply completing homework tasks.
  • A participant mentions calculating the pressures exerted by each liquid and questions whether horizontal pressure is necessary for finding the oil density.
  • Another reply clarifies that pressure acts in all directions and suggests that the moment at the hinge of the gate must be zero for equilibrium, linking force, pressure, and area in their explanation.
  • There is an implication that the remaining calculations should be straightforward once the principles are understood.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principles involved in the problem, such as the need to consider pressures and moments for equilibrium. However, there is no consensus on the specific approach to solving for the oil density, as some participants are still uncertain about the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps necessary to find the oil density, and there are assumptions about the application of pressure and moments that remain unexamined.

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Readers interested in fluid mechanics, particularly those studying equilibrium conditions in fluid systems, may find this discussion relevant.

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An open tank has a horizontal bottom. It is divided into two parts by a vertical gate. The gate
is rectangular, 3m high and it is hinged at its top. Water of density p,=1000kg/m3 in one part
of the tank is acting on one side of the gate, and oil of density p, in the other part of the tank
is acting on the other side of the gate. The gate is in equilibrium in vertical position. The
water depth is 1.50m and the oil depth is 1.65m. Find the oil density p,.
 
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This isn't a 'do my homework for me' forum. Please show what you have tried so far.
 
i have tried working out the pressures of each liquid hence the horizontall pressure they apply to the gate but have always come up with the wrong answer. do i need to find the horizontall pressure to find the density of the oil?
 
adoza said:
i have tried working out the pressures of each liquid hence the horizontall pressure they apply to the gate but have always come up with the wrong answer. do i need to find the horizontall pressure to find the density of the oil?

pressure acts in all directions, so saying horizontal pressure is redundant. but yes.

remember at eqbm, the moment at the hinge of the gate is 0.
a moment is a force times an area
a force is a pressure times an area
pressure in a fluid varies with height

i did the hard part, your turn - it should be all numbers from here on out
 

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