Find parametric equations for the tangent line

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The discussion revolves around finding parametric equations for the tangent line to a curve defined by specific parametric equations at a given point. The equations provided are x = 1 + 2√t, y = t³ - t, and z = t³ + t, with the point of interest being (3, 0, 2).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to determine the appropriate value of "t" that corresponds to the point (3, 0, 2) on the curve. There is mention of differentiating between the original parametric equations and their derivatives, with some confusion regarding terminology, specifically the distinction between tangent and normal vectors.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on clarifying the definitions of the vectors involved and have suggested focusing on identifying the correct parameter "t" for the given point. The conversation reflects ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of potential confusion regarding the terminology used for vectors, specifically the mislabeling of the tangent vector as a normal vector. Participants are also navigating the challenge of finding the correct parameter that aligns with the specified point on the curve.

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Homework Statement



Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.

Homework Equations



x = 1+2 \sqrt{t}, \quad y = t^3 - t, \quad z = t^3 + t, \quad (3, 0, 2)

The Attempt at a Solution




I began by re-writing this as \vec{r}(t) = <1+2 \sqrt{t}, \quad t^3 - t, \quad t^3 + t >
and then taking the derivative to find the normal vector: \vec{r}(t) = <1/ \sqrt{t}, \quad 3t^2 - 1, \quad 3t^2 + 1>. From here, I tried plugging in (3, 0, 2) into each of the components for the derivative, but that hasn't worked. I think I need to find a value to use for "t" and then put that into the normal vector, but I am not sure how.
 
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Yae Miteo said:

Homework Statement



Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.

Homework Equations



x = 1+2 \sqrt{t}, \quad y = t^3 - t, \quad z = t^3 + t, \quad (3, 0, 2)

The Attempt at a Solution

I began by re-writing this as \vec{r}(t) = <1+2 \sqrt{t}, \quad t^3 - t, \quad t^3 + t >
and then taking the derivative to find the normal vector: \vec{r}(t) = <1/ \sqrt{t}, \quad 3t^2 - 1, \quad 3t^2 + 1>. From here, I tried plugging in (3, 0, 2) into each of the components for the derivative, but that hasn't worked. I think I need to find a value to use for "t" and then put that into the normal vector, but I am not sure how.

Part of your problem may be you are calling both the original equation and its derivative ##r(t)##. Find the ##t## that makes the original equation pass through ##(3,0,2)##.
 
Yae Miteo said:

Homework Statement



Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.

Homework Equations



x = 1+2 \sqrt{t}, \quad y = t^3 - t, \quad z = t^3 + t, \quad (3, 0, 2)

The Attempt at a Solution




I began by re-writing this as \vec{r}(t) = <1+2 \sqrt{t}, \quad t^3 - t, \quad t^3 + t >
and then taking the derivative to find the normal vector: \vec{r}(t) = <1/ \sqrt{t}, \quad 3t^2 - 1, \quad 3t^2 + 1>. From here, I tried plugging in (3, 0, 2) into each of the components for the derivative, but that hasn't worked. I think I need to find a value to use for "t" and then put that into the normal vector, but I am not sure how.

Please distinguish between ##\vec{r}(t)## and ##\vec{r}'(t)##, which is your second one. Anyway ##\vec{r}'(t)## is NOT a "normal vector"! Can you describe what it actually IS?
 
I made a mistake. I meant to say tangent vector.
 

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