Find Shortest Distance of y=x^2 from (4,0)

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The discussion revolves around finding the shortest distance from the point (4,0) to the curve defined by the equation y=x^2. Participants are exploring various methods to approach this problem, which falls under the subject area of calculus and optimization.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using the derivative of the function to find the slope of the tangent line and the normal line at a point on the curve. There are attempts to set up equations for distance and minimize them with respect to x. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the relationship between the point and the curve.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants suggest minimizing the square of the distance instead of the distance itself, while others express confusion about the methods being proposed. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants note that the problem may lead to complex equations and that understanding the geometric interpretation of the shortest distance is essential. There is also mention of the difficulty in solving the derived equations.

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shortest distance??

Homework Statement



find the shortest distance of y=x^2 from (4,0)

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The Attempt at a Solution



if y=x^2, then
y'=2x

where x=4
the slope is 8

the solution is

y=8(x-4)
if that is the tangent line \, the normal line would be

y=(1/8)(x-4)

after that.. I'm stuck!
 
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One way is to write out the Euclidian distance from vector [x, x^2] to vector [4, 0], then minimize w/r/t x.
 
EnumaElish, what rhey is trying to do is, I believe, more fundamental and a "nicer" method.

The shortest distance from (4,0) to y= x2 will be along the line that is perpendicular to the graph. HOWEVER, rhey, x= 4 is for the point (4, 0), not any point on the graph! Let [itex](x_0, x_0^2)[/itex] be the point on y= x2 closest to (4, 0). The derivative there, and the slope of the tangent line, is 2x0 so the slope of the normal line is [itex]-1/(2x_0)[/itex]. The equation of the line through (4, 0), perpendicular to y= x2 at [itex](x_0,x_0^2)[/itex] is [itex]y= -1/(2x_0)(x- 4)[/itex]. If that is to pass through [itex](x_0, x_0^2)[/itex], you must have y= [itex]x_0^2= -1/(2x_0)(x_0- 4)[/itex]. Solve that equation for x0 and you are almost done!

Hmm, that leads to a rather difficult equation for x0! Darn it, EnumaElish may be right!
 
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i really can't understand what are u trying to tell me.. honestly, I'm not that good in math! but I'm trying..
 
1) Setup an equation for distance between point (0,4) and the function, [tex]f(x) = x^2[/tex]

[tex]d = \sqrt{(x_2 - x_1)^2 - (y_2 - y_1)^2}[/tex]
[tex]d = \sqrt{(x_2 - 4)^2 - (y_2)^2}[/tex]
[tex]d = \sqrt{(x_2 - 4)^2 - (x_2)^4}[/tex]

2) Take the derivative of d and set it equal to zero

[tex]d' = 0 = \frac{4(x_2)^3 - 2(x_2 - 4)}{2\sqrt{(x_2 - 4)^2 - (x_2)^4}}[/tex]
[tex]0 = 4(x_2)^3 - 2(x_2 - 4)[/tex]
[tex]4(x_2)^3 = 2(x_2 - 4)[/tex]
[tex]{x_2}^3 = x_2 - 4[/tex]

As others have said, the problem is still difficult to solve from here...
 
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And, as EnumaElish said, it's far easier to minimize the square of the distance, not the distance itself! Oh, and it should be y- 4, not x- 4.
 

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