Find tangent lines to both curves

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The discussion focuses on finding the equations of straight lines that are tangent to both curves defined by the equations y = x² + 4x + 1 and y = -x² + 4x - 1. The key insight is that the slopes of the tangent lines at points (x₁, y₁) and (x₂, y₂) on the respective curves must be equal, leading to the equation m = 2x₁ + 4 = -2x₂ + 4. By substituting x₁ = -x₂ into the slope equation, participants are guided to solve for x₂, which is crucial for determining the tangent line equations.

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Homework Statement



Find the equation of all straight lines, if any, that are tangent to both the curves y = {x^2} + 4x + 1 and y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose such a line exists and its slope is m. Let ({x_1},{y_1}) and ({x_2},{y_2}) be the tangent points on the curves y = {x^2} + 4x + 1 and y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1 respectively.
Then {y_1} = {x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1 and {y_2} = - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1.
The slope of the curves at {x_1} is 2{x_1} + 4 and at {x_2} is -2{x_2} + 4. Thus m=2{x_1} + 4=-2{x_2} + 4 \Rightarrow {x_1} = - {x_2}. Moreover, m = \frac{{{y_2} - {y_1}}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{( - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1) - ({x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1)}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{{y_1}}}{{{x_1}}}.
What should be the next steps here? Thanks!
 
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drawar said:

Homework Statement



Find the equation of all straight lines, if any, that are tangent to both the curves y = {x^2} + 4x + 1 and y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose such a line exists and its slope is m. Let ({x_1},{y_1}) and ({x_2},{y_2}) be the tangent points on the curves y = {x^2} + 4x + 1 and y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1 respectively.
Then {y_1} = {x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1 and {y_2} = - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1.
The slope of the curves at {x_1} is 2{x_1} + 4 and at {x_2} is -2{x_2} + 4. Thus m=2{x_1} + 4=-2{x_2} + 4 \Rightarrow {x_1} = - {x_2}. Moreover, m = \frac{{{y_2} - {y_1}}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{( - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1) - ({x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1)}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{{y_1}}}{{{x_1}}}.
What should be the next steps here? Thanks!
You have it nearly done.

Well, you have:
x_1=-x_2

m=-2{x_2} + 4

\displaystyle m=\frac{{( - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1) - ({x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1)}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}}​

Plug -x2 in for x1 in that last equation & equate that to your other expression for m that has only x2 in it.

Solve for x2.
 
Gosh I am so blind, thank you so much!
 

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