Find the bounds after changing the variables in a double integral

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The discussion revolves around changing variables in a double integral, specifically transforming the bounds from xy-coordinates to uv-coordinates. The original poster presents their approach to determining the new bounds after variable substitution.

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  • The original poster attempts to convert the boundaries of a double integral after changing variables, providing their calculations and seeking verification of their bounds. Some participants suggest drawing lines for constant u to check the bounds for v, indicating a focus on visual interpretation of the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging in verifying the bounds of the integral. There are indications of differing results and some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the bounds, while others suggest methods to check the work without providing explicit solutions.

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There is mention of a triangular region defined by the boundaries, and the discussion includes the need to evaluate the integral in two parts based on the variable transformations. The original poster's calculations and the subsequent responses highlight potential discrepancies in the bounds.

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The answer calculates the integral with ##du## before ##dv## as shown below.
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However I decided to compute it in the opposite order with different bounds. Here is my work:
According to the definitions, $$\begin{cases} u=x+y\\ v=2x-3y \end{cases}$$
First we need to convert the boundaries in xy into uv. The equation of y-axis is ##v=-3u## and the equation of x-axis is ##v=2u##. This two lines give the lower and upper limits of the inner integral dv. The bounds for u can be found by substituting ##x=0## and ##y=0## into ##2x-3y=4##. The lower bounds appears at the lower vertex of the triangle with the value of ##u=-4/3##. Similarly, the upper bounds is the right vertex at ##u=2##. After putting things together we get
$$\frac 1 5 \int _{-4/3}^{2}\int _{-3u}^{2u}v^2u^2\,dvdu$$
I'd like someone to check if the bounds in this integral are correct. Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi,

If you did everything correctly, your integral would yield the same as what the alternative yields. I get a different result, though.

Draw some lines where ##u## is constant and check the bounds of ##v##

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BvU said:
Hi,

If you did everything correctly, your integral would yield the same as what the alternative yields. I get a different result, though.

Draw some lines where ##u## is constant and check the bounds of ##v##
Thank you! I think I messed up the bounds for v.
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The graph above shows that heights of the endpoints of the line segment spanning the height of the triangle at a fixed x value are ##v=4## and ##v=-3u## or ##v=2u##; the choice of the lower bound depends on x. Hence the double integral can be written as

$$\frac 1 5 \int _{-4/3}^{0}\int _{-3u}^{4}v^2u^2\,dvdu+\frac 1 5 \int _{0}^{2}\int _{2u}^{4}v^2u^2\,dvdu$$
Is this correct?
 
You can evaluate and check for yourself ...

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BvU said:
You can evaluate and check for yourself ...

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I think I got it right. I appreciate your help.
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Looks ok. (didn't check it, but I see you have to do two integrals -- which is the reason the book solution prefers the other order)
 

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