Find the Final Temperature of Metal and Water in a Thermodynamics Problem

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The problem involves a thermodynamics scenario where a piece of metal is submerged in water, and participants are tasked with finding the final temperature of both substances. The specific heat capacities of iron and water are provided, along with initial temperatures.

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  • Participants discuss setting up the heat transfer equation using the formula q=mc(delta T) and express confusion over the correct application of temperature changes. There is a focus on ensuring the correct signs for heat gain and loss.

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Some participants have attempted to solve the equation but report receiving incorrect results. A clarification regarding the direction of heat transfer for the metal has been provided, which may help guide further attempts.

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Participants are navigating the implications of heat loss and gain, particularly regarding the metal's temperature change. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstanding in the setup of the equation.

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1. Homework Statement
A 100-g piece of metal initially at T = 75oC is submerged in 100 g of water initially at T = 25oC. The specific heat capacity of iron is 0.45 J g-1 °C-1 and the specific heat capacity of water is 4.18 J g-1 °C-1. What is the final temperature of both substances in oC?


2. Homework Equations
q=mc(delta T)


3. The Attempt at a Solution
well i tried to set mc(delta T)=mc(delta T), plug in all the values and solve for T(final), but i keep getting the wrong answer
 
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What numbers did you put for each of the changes in temperature?
 
mc(delta T)=mc(delta T)

(100)(.45)(T(final)-75)=100(4.184)(T(final)-25)

i solved that for T(final) but still got the wrong answer
 
physicsman2 said:
mc(delta T)=mc(delta T)

(100)(.45)(T(final)-75)=100(4.184)(T(final)-25)

i solved that for T(final) but still got the wrong answer


For the term on the left side, (the metal at 75), it can't gain heat, it only loses heat. So That should be (75-Tfinal). Understand?
 
oh, now i understand, thank you so much
 

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