Find the functions of V1, V2, V3 in an RC circuit

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The discussion revolves around an RC circuit involving three capacitors and two resistors, where the potentials at three nodes are to be determined over time. The original poster attempts to formulate the problem using Kirchhoff's current law and matrix representation, seeking to understand the evolution of the voltages at the nodes.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Kirchhoff's current law and the formulation of equations for the circuit. Questions arise regarding the correct expression of currents in terms of voltage differences across components, and the need for differential equations when capacitors are involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on expressing currents correctly and emphasized the importance of formulating differential equations for the circuit analysis. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to derive the necessary equations.

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The original poster mentions initial conditions for the potentials at the nodes, and there is a request for clarification on the physical principles involved, particularly regarding the conservation of charge in the system.

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Homework Statement
Consider the following electrical network with three capacitors ##C (1 nF)## and two resistors ##R=1M\Omega##.
It represents a model of three cells of capacitance ##C## connected by a gap junction with resistance##R##.
At time## t=0## (initial condition), the potential at point ##1 (V_1)## is ##100 mV## (with respect to ground) and the potential at point ##2 (V_2)## and at point ##3 (V_3)## is ##0 mV##.
How do the potentials ##V_1## , ##V_2## and ##V_3## evolve with time? Find the functions ##V_1=f_1(t)## , ##V_2=f_2(t)## and ##V_3=f_3(t)##
Prove that## V1 + V2 + V3## does not change with time. To what physical principle does this correspond?

(I apologize if I posted in the wrong section, but it is homework given to me..and I am also new to the forum)
Relevant Equations
##I=\frac{dQ}{dt}##
##V_r=IR##
##V_c=\frac{Q}{C}##

##Q_1+Q_2+Q_3=Q_1(0)##
I tried using Kirchhof's current law, and to pose the problem in matrix form as ##\frac{dv}{dt}=Mv## with## v## the vector of the ##3## potentials at nodes ##1, 2## and ##3##, and ##M## is a ##3x3## matrix.
it would be enough to show me which will be the differential equations, I would proceed by solving them by myself.
 

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Zoja said:
Problem Statement: Consider the following electrical network with three capacitors ##C (1 nF)## and two resistors ##R=1M\Omega##.
It represents a model of three cells of capacitance ##C## connected by a gap junction with resistance##R##.
At time## t=0## (initial condition), the potential at point ##1 (V_1)## is ##100 mV## (with respect to ground) and the potential at point ##2 (V_2)## and at point ##3 (V_3)## is ##0 mV##.
How do the potentials ##V_1## , ##V_2## and ##V_3## evolve with time? Find the functions ##V_1=f_1(t)## , ##V_2=f_2(t)## and ##V_3=f_3(t)##
Prove that## V1 + V2 + V3## does not change with time. To what physical principle does this correspond?

(I apologize if I posted in the wrong section, but it is homework given to me..and I am also new to the forum)
Relevant Equations: ##I=\frac{dQ}{dt}##
##V_r=IR##
##V_c=\frac{Q}{C}##

##Q_1+Q_2+Q_3=Q_1(0)##

I tried using Kirchhof's current law
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Can you show us the equations you got for the KCL nodes?
 
##i_1=-I_1+I_2##

##i_2=I_1-2I_2+I_3##

##i_3=I_2-I_3##
 
Um, no. That's obviously of no help.

KCL equations involve the sum of all currents out of each node, sure, but you need to express those currents in terms of the voltage difference across impedances leading out of each node. If it's all resistors, that's just linear equations. When there are inductors and capacitors, you write the differential equations and solve them.

Have at it! :smile:
 

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