Find the least acceleration and least retardation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car's motion as it approaches a traffic light. Participants explore the necessary acceleration to reach the crosswalk before the light turns red and the required retardation to stop at the light. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification related to kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the scenario where a car is traveling at 10 m/sec and is 40 meters from a crosswalk with 3 seconds until the light changes, posing questions about the least acceleration and retardation needed.
  • Another participant requests to see the initial attempts and where the first participant is stuck to provide better assistance.
  • A participant shares their approach using the equation S = u*t + 1/2 a t^2 for the acceleration case and expresses uncertainty about the correct method for calculating retardation.
  • There is a correction regarding the assumption of distance (S) being zero in the second case, with a suggestion that the correct formula involves V^2 = Vo^2 + 2aS.
  • One participant questions the assumption that velocity is zero when stopping at the light, suggesting that the car would still be moving slowly.
  • Another participant clarifies that if the car stops at the light, its speed must be zero at that point, indicating that the least deceleration would be the one that brings the speed to zero at the light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for the second case, particularly regarding the velocity of the car when stopping at the light. There is no consensus on the correct approach to the problem, and multiple interpretations of the scenario remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in calculating the necessary acceleration and retardation, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the car's velocity when approaching the light.

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A car is traveling at 10 m/sec. When it is 40 meters from a crosswalk, there is still 3 seconds before the light changes to red. The driver has two choices: the first is to accelerate to reach the crossing before the light changes to red and the second is to try to stop at the light. What is the least acceleration which would be necessary in the first case? And what is the least retardation which would be necessary in the second case?
 
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Hi Douna2nd! :wink:

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:

(use the standard https://www.physicsforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4423610 equations)
 
It was in my final exam today actually and I did in the first case S=volt + 1/2 a t^2 and I have the distance, the intial velocity and time and I got the a then in the second case I didn't actually know what to do but I assumed that S =0 and used the same rule used above and got the acceleration but I wanted to know what is the correct answer for this problem
 
Douna2nd said:
A car is traveling at 10 m/sec. When it is 40 meters from a crosswalk, there is still 3 seconds before the light changes to red.
… the second is to try to stop at the light. … what is the least retardation which would be necessary in the second case?
Douna2nd said:
… in the second case I didn't actually know what to do but I assumed that S =0 and used the same rule used above and got the acceleration but I wanted to know what is the correct answer for this problem

nooo, s is still 40, v is 0 :redface:

you knew u v and s, and you wanted a, so the correct formula would be … ? :smile:
 
V^2 =Vo^2 +2 a S
I solved the problem in a wrong way in the exaaaaam! :O
 
'fraid so!

but hopefully you've done well in the rest of the exam :smile:
 
Why is the velocity zero in the second case? The car will be moving but moving slowly
 
Douna2nd said:
Why is the velocity zero in the second case? The car will be moving but moving slowly

no …
Douna2nd said:
… the second is to try to stop at the light.

… if she stops at (or before) the light, her speed is 0 at (or before) the light

the least deceleration will be the one that makes her speed 0 at the light :wink:
 
Aahh! Thank you ! :D
 

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