Find the Limit as x Approaches Infinity: Simple Conjugate Method Explanation

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression sqrt(x) - sqrt(x^2 - 1) as x approaches infinity, utilizing the conjugate method for simplification.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conjugate method, questioning the correct form of the conjugate and the handling of powers in the expression. There is confusion regarding the highest power in the numerator and denominator, leading to discussions about dividing by the appropriate terms.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the conjugate method and clarifying misunderstandings about powers in the expression. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations of the limit and the method are being discussed.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correct application of the conjugate method and the treatment of square roots in the limit process. There is also mention of calculator results contrasting with manual calculations.

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I am trying to find the limit as x aproaches infinity to this expression:
sqrt(x)-sqrt(x^2 -1)
I am using the conjugate method by multiplying the expresion by [sqrt(x)-sqrt(x^2 -1)/sqrt(x)-sqrt(x^2 -1)], and then dividing each term by the highest degree in the denominator which is 1/2. I am coming up with the limit as 0/1, or simply zero. But my calculator is coming up with -infinity. What am I doing wrong?
 
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The conjugate would be of opposite sign, so use

[sqrt(x)+sqrt(x^2 -1)/sqrt(x)+sqrt(x^2 -1)]
 
limit at infinity

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x^2 -1} = \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \left( \sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x^2 -1} \right) \frac{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}}{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}} = \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{x-\left( x^2 -1\right)}{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}}[/tex]

the highest power of x on both top and bottom is 1 (since for x>0 [tex]\sqrt{x^2}=x[/tex],) so

[tex]= \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{x-x^2 +1}{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}}\left( \frac{\frac{1}{x}}{\frac{1}{x}}\right) = \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{1-x +\frac{1}{x}}{\sqrt{\frac{x}{x^2}}+\sqrt{\frac{x^2 -1}{x^2}}} =\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{1-x +\frac{1}{x}}{\sqrt{\frac{1}{x}}+\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{x^2}}} =\frac{1-\infty +0}{\sqrt{0}+\sqrt{1-0}} = -\infty[/tex]
 
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benorin said:
The conjugate would be of opposite sign, so use
[sqrt(x)+sqrt(x^2 -1)/sqrt(x)+sqrt(x^2 -1)]
That is what I was using. I just wrote the wrong sign in this thread. Sorry.:blushing: :redface:
 
benorin said:
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x^2 -1} = \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \left( \sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x^2 -1} \right) \frac{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}}{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}} = \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{x-\left( x^2 -1\right)}{\sqrt{x}+\sqrt{x^2 -1}}<br /> [/tex]
I don't understand what you did benorin. I get you up to this point, but from here I thought that you had to divide everything by the largest power in the denominator, and that is 1/2.
 
What do you mean that the highest power in the top and bottom is one? It looks like the highest power in the numerator is 2 to me. Do you mean that the highest power that is simultaniously in the top and bottom is one? If so, where do you see a power of one in the denominator. Am i supposed to ignor the square root and look at the value within the square root funcion or something like that?
 
You're right, it's the highest power on the bottom: the highest power of x on bottom is 1, since [tex]\sqrt{x^2}=x[/tex], (for x>0 to avoid to absolute value) so divide numerator and denominator by x.
 
Ah geez... It is always those stupid little things that get you. Thanks a bunch!
 

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