Find the magnitude of the acceleration of the two blocks.

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The problem involves determining the magnitude of acceleration for two blocks under different conditions, including one scenario with frictionless sliding and another with a downward force. The context includes analyzing forces and tensions in a system involving weights and accelerations.

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of weights as forces and how to derive mass from weight. Questions are raised about the conditions necessary for the blocks to accelerate, particularly regarding tension in the string and its relationship to the weight of the blocks.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the relationships between weight, mass, and acceleration. Some have made progress in calculating accelerations and are seeking clarification on specific equations and assumptions related to the scenarios presented.

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There is confusion regarding the representation of weights in the problem, and participants are questioning the implications of having no mass in certain equations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


a)Find the magnitude of the acceleration of the two blocks in (Figure 1) . Assume the top block slides without friction on the horizontal surface.

b)If the 12-N block in (Figure 1) is replaced with a 12-N force pulling downward, as in (Figure 2) , is the acceleration of the sliding block greater than, less than, or equal to the acceleration calculated in part A?
Less than
Greater than
Equal to
c)Calculate the acceleration of the block in (Figure 2) , assuming it slides without friction.
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The Attempt at a Solution


I have attached a picture of my free body diagram. But I don't know where to start after that. I am thrown off because the number in the boxes are not masses.
 

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The numbers in the blocks are the weights of the blocks , w= mg. It is confusing when the problem is shown that way . But you can solve for m, then continue.
 
In order for the 12 N block to accelerate downward, does the tension in the string have to be greater than 12 N, less than 12 N, or equal to 12 N?
 
PhanthomJay said:
The numbers in the blocks are the weights of the blocks , w= mg. It is confusing when the problem is shown that way . But you can solve for m, then continue.
okay so m=w/g?
 
Yes
 
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Chestermiller said:
In order for the 12 N block to accelerate downward, does the tension in the string have to be greater than 12 N, less than 12 N, or equal to 12 N?
less than 12 N? Because If it is greater wouldn't it make it go upward?
 
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Angela_vaal said:
less than 12 N? Because If it is greater wouldn't it make it go upward?
Yes. So that should give you your answer to part a.
 
okay so I figured out the magnitude of the acceleration of the two blocks. I am a bit confused how to do part b. I have attached a picture of my FBD and equations. I would like to know if the second equation is right. If it is or is not equal to "0" since there is no mass. And if there is no mass it would also means there is no acceleration either.
 

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Never mind the work I did for equation 2 I did above as noted in the photo. my m2 is instead T=-12N. I plugged that into the first equation and got -4.7m/s2. for my first value I got 3.2 m/s2. would part b be less than ?
 
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To get the answer to part b, all you need to do is compare the acceleration for part c with the acceleration for part a.
 
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