Find the mass and density of a beam

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass and density of a steel cantilever beam with specified dimensions. Participants are exploring the relationship between mass and density, particularly in the context of uniform density and the implications of the given formulas.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question how to find mass and density when each is defined in terms of the other. There is a discussion about whether to treat density as linear or volume density, and how that affects the calculations. Some suggest that given the constant density, mass can be expressed in terms of density and volume.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into how to express mass and density based on the beam's dimensions. There is recognition that while explicit values cannot be determined without additional information, useful expressions can be formulated. Some participants suggest looking up the density of steel as a potential step forward.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the uniformity of the beam's density and the need for clarity on whether the density is considered linear or volumetric. Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, particularly the lack of specific numerical values for mass or density.

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Homework Statement


I have a steel cantilever beam of length 5m, width 0.5m, and thickness 0.1m. The beam has uniform density.

Homework Equations


\begin{align*}
M &= \iint_D\rho(x, y)dxdy\\
\rho &= M/\ell
\end{align*}

The Attempt at a Solution


If I don't know the mass or density, how can I find either one when each is defined with the other?
 
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Dustinsfl said:

Homework Statement


I have a steel cantilever beam of length 5m, width 0.5m, and thickness 0.1m. The beam has uniform density.

Homework Equations


\begin{align*}
M &= \iint_D\rho(x, y)dxdy\\
\rho &= M/\ell
\end{align*}

The Attempt at a Solution


If I don't know the mass or density, how can I find either one when each is defined with the other?

The density is given to be constant, so just call it ##\rho##. You have to decide what the units are, depending on whether it is a linear or volume density. Given your formulas above, maybe it's a linear density. In any case, since it is constant, you don't need an integral to calculate the mass.
 
LCKurtz said:
The density is given to be constant, so just call it ##\rho##. You have to decide what the units are, depending on whether it is a linear or volume density. Given your formulas above, maybe it's a linear density. In any case, since it is constant, you don't need an integral to calculate the mass.

How do I find the mass then? Will it just be called ##M = 5\rho## or can I get an explicit value for ##\rho##?
 
Dustinsfl said:
How do I find the mass then? Will it just be called ##M = 5\rho## or can I get an explicit value for ##\rho##?
With the given information all you can do is write expressions that represent mass and density. If the density is volume density (##\rho## in units of kg/m3), then the mass would be ##V\rho##.
 
Dustinsfl said:
If I don't know the mass or density, how can I find either one when each is defined with the other?
Perhaps you're meant to look up the density of steel.
 

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