Find the minimal polynomial

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The problem involves finding the minimal polynomial of the expression \(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{1+2^{1/3}}\) over the rational numbers Q. The original poster identifies this expression as \(x\) and notes the degree of the extension Q(x) is six.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to derive a minimal polynomial by setting up a system of equations based on a general degree six polynomial. They express uncertainty about the rationality of the solution and seek alternative methods. Another participant suggests starting from a different equation involving \(x\) and manipulating it through expansion and squaring. A third post acknowledges a correction in notation but maintains the same principle in their approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different algebraic manipulations to derive the minimal polynomial. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative approaches, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses concern about potential computational errors in their attempts and notes the complexity of the system of equations they derived.

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Homework Statement



Find the minimal polynomial of [tex]\frac{\sqrt{3}}{1+2^{1/3}}[/tex] over Q

we'll call this x

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I wish I knew some :(

The Attempt at a Solution

By taking powers of x, I was able to show that the extension Q(x) has degree six (since 21/3 and sqrt(3) are both independently inside Q(x)) and hence the minimal polynomial has degree six. So then I took a general degree six polynomial, plugged in x, and got six equations in six unknowns. This is less than elegant, and I ended with a system of equations (luckily three of the six unknown coefficients were zero):

255b + 261d + 595f = -171
150b + 222d + 460f = -144
105b + 159d + 375f = -108

solving for b,d,f. An attempt at a numerical solution doesn't convince me this has a rational solution, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a computational error preceding this. Is there a better way to do this?
 
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How about starting from the equation x=sqrt(31)+2^(1/3)? So (x-sqrt(31))^3=2. Expand the left side and move all of the terms involving sqrt(31) to one side and everything else to the other. Now square.
 
Sorry, you posted before I fixed the latex. Different value for x

EDIT: Same principle worked though. Thanks a ton
 
Fast, aren't I? Same idea. x=sqrt(3)/(1+2^(1/3)) -> x2^(1/3)=sqrt(3)-x. Cube, rearrange and then square.
 

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