Find the point where the eletrostatic force is maximum. (With drawing)

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The discussion revolves around finding the point where the electrostatic force is maximized, involving the analysis of a mathematical expression derived from the forces acting on charges. The subject area is electrostatics, specifically focusing on force interactions between charged particles.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a condition for maximum force by taking the derivative of a force equation. Some participants question the correctness of the differentiation process and the resulting equations.

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Participants are actively engaging in verifying the differentiation steps and discussing potential errors in the equations presented. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the mathematical reasoning involved, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the final equation.

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The net force will be:

[itex]F=\frac{2*Sin(\alpha)*q1*q}{(d/cos(\alpha))^{2}}=cos(\alpha)^{2}*Sin(\alpha)*qq1/d^{2}[/itex]

Taking the rerivative to find the maximum we get:

[itex]\frac{d cos(\alpha)^{2}*Sin(\alpha)}{d\alpha}=0 \Leftrightarrow cos(\alpha)^{2}=2*Sin(\alpha)[/itex]

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The attachment is broken.
 


Sorry, here it is:

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I do not think the final equation is correct. Show how you differentiated the previous equation.
 


[itex]\frac{d cos(\alpha)^{2}*Sin(\alpha)}{d\alpha}=0 \Leftrightarrow cos(\alpha)^{2}´*sin(\alpha)+cos(\alpha)^{2}*sin(\alpha)´=0 \Leftrightarrow <br /> -2*sin(\alpha)*cos(\alpha)+cos(\alpha)^{3}=0 \Leftrightarrow cos(\alpha)^{2}=2*Sin(\alpha)[/itex]
 


tsuwal said:
[itex]\frac{d cos(\alpha)^{2}*Sin(\alpha)}{d\alpha}=0 \Leftrightarrow cos(\alpha)^{2}´*sin(\alpha)+cos(\alpha)^{2}*sin(\alpha)´=0 \Leftrightarrow <br /> -2*sin(\alpha)*cos(\alpha)+cos(\alpha)^{3}[/itex]

This should be ## -2*sin(\alpha)*cos(\alpha)*sin(\alpha)+cos(\alpha)^{3} ##
 


Thanks, don't know how I missed that!
 


I assume you can continue from here.
 

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