Find the points on a graph at which the tangent line is parallel

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The problem involves finding points on the graph of the function y = x^(3/2) - x^(1/2) where the tangent line is parallel to the line described by the equation y - x = 3. This requires analyzing the derivatives and slopes of the functions involved.

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  • Participants discuss the derivative of the function and its implications for finding parallel tangent lines. There is confusion regarding the correct form of the derivative and how it relates to the slope of the given line.

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The discussion has progressed through various attempts to clarify the derivative and solve for x. Some participants have questioned assumptions and interpretations of the derivative, while others have provided corrections and alternative approaches. The conversation reflects a mix of exploration and clarification without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is a noted misposting of the thread in the forum, and participants are navigating through the complexities of calculus concepts, particularly around derivatives and their applications in finding tangent lines.

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Homework Statement


Find the points on the graph y=x^3/2 - x^1/2 at which the tangent line is parallel to y-x=3.


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The Attempt at a Solution


First I found that the derivative of y=x^3/2 - x^1/2 is 1x.
I then rewrote the other line as y = 3+x and found the derivative to be 1.
Then I set 1x = 1, therefore x = 1
Now I plugged it back into the original function and got y = 1^3/2-1^1/2 = 1
So the point is (1,1).
But I have no idea if I am anywhere near correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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thatguythere said:

Homework Statement


Find the points on the graph y=x^3/2 - x^1/2 at which the tangent line is parallel to y-x=3.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


First I found that the derivative of y=x^3/2 - x^1/2 is 1x.
No it isn't. How did you get 1x for the derivative?
thatguythere said:
I then rewrote the other line as y = 3+x and found the derivative to be 1.
Then I set 1x = 1, therefore x = 1
Now I plugged it back into the original function and got y = 1^3/2-1^1/2 = 1
So the point is (1,1).
But I have no idea if I am anywhere near correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also, calculus questions should be posted in "Calculus & Beyond" not in the Precalc Math section. I am moving this thread.
 
My apologies for the mispost. Also I do not know what I was thinking with that derivative. It should be 3x^1/2/2-1/2x^1/2 correct?
 
Therefore, setting 3x^1/2/2-1/2x^1/2 = 1, I get x = 1/9, 1.
 
thatguythere said:
My apologies for the mispost. Also I do not know what I was thinking with that derivative. It should be 3x^1/2/2-1/2x^1/2 correct?

Almost, and you need to use parentheses around the exponents if you write using ordinary text.

The first term, (3/2)x^(1/2), in your derivative is correct, but the second one isn't.
 
Here's the first part of what you wrote: 3x^1/2/2

Using the precedence of operations, this is the same as if written ((3x^1)/2)/2

Or, in LaTeX:
$$ \frac{\frac{3x^1}{2}}{2} = \frac{3x^1}{4}$$
 
The second part of the derivative, (1/2)x^(-1/2) = (1)/2x^(1/2) is incorrect?
 
Ah, perhaps it is (1)/2√x
 
thatguythere said:
The second part of the derivative, (1/2)x^(-1/2) = (1)/2x^(1/2) is incorrect?

(1/2)x^(-1/2) is correct, but it's not equal to (1)/2x^(1/2).

thatguythere said:
Ah, perhaps it is (1)/2√x
This is also incorrect.

According to the order of operations, (1)/2x^(1/2) means
$$ \frac{1}{2}\cdot x^{1/2}$$

Similarly, (1)/2√x means
$$ \frac{1}{2}\cdot \sqrt{x}$$

If you write these using inline text, this will do it: 1/(2x^(1/2)) or 1/(2√x). Now it's clear what's in the denominator.
 
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Regardless of my incorrect use of inline text. Did I solve for x properly when I came to x= 1/9 and 1?
 
  • #11
If you substitute either of these values (x = 1/9, x = 1) into the derivative, do you get 1 as the result?
 
  • #12
x = 1 does, x = 1/9 seems to give me -1.
 
  • #13
Clearly I am doing something very wrong.
 
  • #14
thatguythere said:
x = 1 does, x = 1/9 seems to give me -1.
x = 1 is a solution. How did you get x = 1/9?
 
  • #15
(3x^(1/2))/2 - 1/(2x^(1/2)) = 1
(3x^(1/2))/2 · 2x^(1/2) - 1/(2x^(1/2)) · 2x^(1/2) = 1 · 2x^(1/2)
3x - x^0 = 2x^(1/2)
3x - 1 - 2x^(1/2) = 0
3u^2 - 2u - 1 = 0 where u = x^(1/2)
(3u+1)(u-1) = 0

Now 3u+1 = 0
3u = -1
(3u)/3 = -1/3
u = -1/3
x^(1/2) = -1/3
x = (-1/3)^2
x = 1/9
 
  • #16
thatguythere said:
(3x^(1/2))/2 - 1/(2x^(1/2)) = 1
(3x^(1/2))/2 · 2x^(1/2) - 1/(2x^(1/2)) · 2x^(1/2) = 1 · 2x^(1/2)
3x - x^0 = 2x^(1/2)
3x - 1 - 2x^(1/2) = 0
3u^2 - 2u - 1 = 0 where u = x^(1/2)
(3u+1)(u-1) = 0

Now 3u+1 = 0
3u = -1
(3u)/3 = -1/3
u = -1/3
So x1/2 = -1/3, which means there is no solution for x. There is no real number whose (principal) square root is negative.
thatguythere said:
x^(1/2) = -1/3
x = (-1/3)^2
x = 1/9
 
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  • #17
Ah. So the only solution is x = 1, which I plug back into the original equation y = x^(3/2) - x^(1/2), and gives me 0? Therefore, the point at which the tangent line is parallel to y-x=3 is (1,0)?
 
  • #19
Thank you so much.
 

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