Find the value of beta in degrees

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The discussion revolves around a triangle ABC where the lengths of sides AC and BC are given, along with the angle ACB represented as β. Participants are tasked with determining the value of β given that cos2β equals 0.84, and they explore related calculations involving sin2B and the length of AB.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of sin2B and the implications of the range for β being between 90° and 180°. There is an exploration of the significance of the quadrant in which β lies, particularly regarding the sign of cosine.

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Some participants have made progress in calculating values and understanding the quadrant implications for β. There is an acknowledgment of the importance of recognizing the correct sign for cosine in the second quadrant. However, there is still ongoing exploration of the remaining parts of the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The discussion also touches on related questions about sine and tangent functions, indicating a broader context of trigonometric relationships.

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Homework Statement


In triangle ABC

AC= 9cm, BC=5cm and angle ACB = β in degrees.
Given that cos2β=0.84, determine
(i) the exact value of sin2B
(ii) the value of β if 90°<β<180°
(iii) the length of AB

Homework Equations


sin2θ+cos2θ=1

The Attempt at a Solution


Using that equation In relevant equations i calculated part (i) and it is 0.16

Now I'm stuck on part (ii), I tried finding the square root of sin2β and as well as cos2β
then use the inverse function.

But to no avail, what significance does this range play?
 

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Richie Smash said:

Homework Statement


In triangle ABC

AC= 9cm, BC=5cm and angle ACB = β in degrees.
Given that cos2β=0.84, determine
(i) the exact value of sin2B
(ii) the value of β if 90°<β<180°
(iii) the length of AB

Homework Equations


sin2θ+cos2θ=1

The Attempt at a Solution


Using that equation In relevant equations i calculated part (i) and it is 0.16

Now I'm stuck on part (ii), I tried finding the square root of sin2β and as well as cos2β
then use the inverse function.

But to no avail, what significance does this range play?
You have ##\cos^2\beta = .84## so ##\cos\beta = \pm\sqrt{.84} \approx \pm.92##. Which sign would work for ##\beta## in the second quadrant?
 
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LCKurtz said:
You have ##\cos^2\beta = .84## so ##\cos\beta = \pm\sqrt{.84} \approx \pm.92##. Which sign would work for ##\beta## in the second quadrant?
Oh wow it was a simple matter of understanding the quadrants!
The range gives it away, it's clearly in the second quadrant and since cosine is the value its going to be the negative sign!
I got 156.4 degrees which is the answer, now time to work out the last part
 
Hi this is a related question, but I drew a graph for a sin and tan function from 0 degrees to 60, and the value at which sinx=tanx is 0°

Now they ask derive the value for which sinx=tanx in the range 90°≤x≤270°

I can do this by memorization because yes of course I know sin 180° and tan 180°= 0°.

But I'm pretty sure that's not the method.
 
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Richie Smash said:
Hi this is a related question, but I drew a graph for a sin and tan function from 0 degrees to 60, and the value at which sinx=tanx is 0°

Now they ask derive the value for which sinx=tanx in the range 90°≤x≤270°

I can do this by memorization because yes of course I know sin 180° and tan 180°= 0°.

But I'm pretty sure that's not the method.
I would do the algebra. Rewrite ##\sin x = \tan x = \frac {\sin x}{\cos x}## as ##\sin x(\cos x -1)=0## and ask yourself where on the given interval can either factor be ##0##.
 
Hmm, I'm not quite sure I'm following to be honest, How are you getting sinx(cosx-1)?
This has always been a big problem of mine, I have dificulty figuring out these range questions
 
That's not a range problem, it is an algebra problem. Multiply both sides of ##\sin x = \frac {\sin x}{\cos x}## by ##\cos x## and go from there.
 
Ooo now I understand how you got that expression.

Well it would be 180, but I just know what from knowledge, because sin 180 = 0

and sin180/cos180 is 0 / -1 = 0
 
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And you should also note that ##\cos x = 1## also can happen, and would solve the equation. Such values turn out to not be in your interval, but you still need to check them.
 

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