Find the voltmeter reading in a circuit

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The problem involves a circuit with a 4.0 V cell and a voltmeter connected across different points. The original poster seeks to determine the voltmeter's resistance and its reading when connected across another part of the circuit, while also questioning the implications of using voltmeters in such setups.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the voltmeter's resistance using current values but expresses uncertainty about finding the voltmeter reading in the second scenario. Some participants suggest using the known resistance of the voltmeter in conjunction with the resistors in the circuit to find the voltage through a voltage divider approach.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the voltmeter's resistance and its application in the second circuit. There is an ongoing dialogue about whether the voltmeter's resistance remains constant and how to apply it in calculations for the second reading.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the assumptions about the voltmeter's resistance in different circuit configurations, and participants are questioning the implications of these assumptions on their calculations.

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Homework Statement


The 4.0 V cell in the circuits shown below has zero internal resistance. An accurately calibrated voltmeter connected across YZ records 1.50 V. Calculate (a) the resistance of the voltmeter, (b) the voltmeter reading when it is connected across Y'Z'.

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What do your results suggest concerning the use of voltmeters?

2. The attempt at a solution
(a) I = V / R = (4 - 1.5) / 60 = 0.0417 A
I = 1.5 / 40 = 0.0375 A
I that flows in the voltmeter = 0.0417 - 0.0375 = 0.00417 A
R = V / I = 1.5 / 0.00417 = 360 Ω

(b) No idea. I did try to some equations like 4 = 600 * I + I R2, but I think they lead into nothing. How can we find the voltmeter reading? It's a parallel circuit but now we don't know neither the V nor the current or the resistance.
 
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moenste said:
(b) No idea. I did try to some equations like 4 = 600 * I + I R2, but I think they lead into nothing. How can we find the voltmeter reading? It's a parallel circuit but now we don't know neither the V nor the current or the resistance.
You know the voltmeter's resistance, so just parallel it up with the 400 Ohm resistor and use the resulting voltage divider to find the voltage.
 
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berkeman said:
You know the voltmeter's resistance, so just parallel it up with the 400 Ohm resistor and use the resulting voltage divider to find the voltage.
You mean 360 Ohm? But it's a different situation (resistors have 600 and 400 Ohm instead of 60 and 40) and it's not stated that 360 Ohm are the same for (b).

But in that case the calculation is clear: 1 / R = 1 / 400 + 1 / 360, we find R = 189, total R = 189 + 600 = 789 Ohm. I = V / R = 4 / 789 = 5.1 * 10-3. V = 5.1 * 10-3 * 600 = 3.04. V = 4 - 3.04 = 0.96 V.
 
The question implies it is the same voltmeter that is moved to the 2nd circuit for the 2nd reading, so just keep using 360 Ohms for the meter's internal resistance.
 
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