Find vector ##x## and ##y## by considering the vector diagram

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The discussion revolves around finding vectors ##x## and ##y## using a vector diagram. The initial solution provided is ##\vec x= -\vec a+\vec d-\vec c## and ##\vec y= -\vec d+\vec c-\vec b##. Participants suggest that while the solution is valid, there may be alternative approaches to derive ##\vec x##, particularly by identifying different loops in the vector diagram. One participant notes that using a loop containing ##\vec x## but not ##\vec y## could enhance the solution. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of exploring various methods for solving vector problems.
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Homework Statement
Find vector ##x## and ##y## by considering the vector diagram
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This is the problem,
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I managed to solve it, i just want to check if there is an alternative approach. Find my solution below;

##\vec x= -\vec a-\vec b-\vec y##
##\vec y= -\vec d+\vec c-\vec b## therefore,
##\vec x= -\vec a-\vec b+\vec d-\vec c+\vec b##
##\vec x= -\vec a+\vec d-\vec c##
 
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Your answer seems the unique way to express them by a b c d.
 
chwala said:
Homework Statement:: Find vector ##x## and ##y## by considering the vector diagram
Relevant Equations:: Vectors

This is the problem,
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I managed to solve it, i just want to check if there is an alternative approach. Find my solution below;

##\vec x= -\vec a-\vec b-\vec y##
##\vec y= -\vec d+\vec c-\vec b## therefore,
##\vec x= -\vec a-\vec b+\vec d-\vec c+\vec b##
##\vec x= -\vec a+\vec d-\vec c##
You could improve the solution slightly by using a different loop to find ##\vec x##.

Can you see the loop containing ##\vec x## but not contianing ##\vec y##?
 
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Steve4Physics said:
You could improve the solution slightly by using a different loop to find ##\vec x##.

Can you see the loop containing ##\vec x## but not contianing ##\vec y##?
Hey, I will look at it over the weekend...cheers
 
It would just be direct from the diagram...

##\vec x= -\vec a+\vec d-\vec c##

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chwala said:
It would just be direct from the diagram...

##\vec x= -\vec a+\vec d-\vec c##
Yes. It doesn't save much work in this particular problem, but it's still a good idea to look for the 'best' loop(s).
 
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