Find When Engines Should Be Turned Off for Spaceship to Reach Space Station

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The problem involves determining when a spaceship should turn off its engines to coast into a space station, given the spaceship's position as a function of time and the coordinates of the space station. The subject area includes vector calculus and motion analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for the spaceship's velocity vector to be parallel to the direction from the spaceship to the space station. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the position and velocity vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the correct interpretation of the relationship between the spaceship's position and the space station's coordinates. Some guidance has been offered regarding the directionality of the vectors involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the correct formulation of the velocity vector and its relationship to the position vector of the space station. Participants are questioning previous assumptions and clarifying definitions.

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Homework Statement


The position of a spaceship is:
[tex]r(t)=(3+t)i +(2+ln(t))j+(7-\frac{4}{t^2+1})k[/tex]

and the coordinated of the space station are (6,4,9). The captian wants the spaceship to coast into the the space station. When should the engines be turned off?

Homework Equations


[tex]r(t)=(3+t)i +(2+ln(t))j+(7-\frac{4}{t^2+1})k[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok the ship coasts(uniform velocity) into the space ship.
So max/min problem right? Find [tex]\frac{d^2r}{dx^2}[/tex] set equall to zero and solve for t right?
 
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Nooo. You want r'(t) to be parallel to r(t)-(6,4,9) and pointing in the right direction. Your turn. Why?
 
So r'(t)=<6,4,9> because it heads in the spacestations direction
 
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The sense of your answer is correct. But the direction of the station is <6,4,9>-r(t) from the position of the ship, right? Difference of two positions is the direction.
 
Ok, so the position vector of the space station is r(t)=<6,4,9>, and r'(t) has to be parallel being r'(t)=<6,4,9> or some scalar multiple.
This means we must solve for t in r'(t) when r'(t)=<6,4,9>?
[tex]r'(t)=<1,\frac{1}{t},\frac{4t}{(t^2+1)^2}>[/tex]
 
:cry::cry::cry:
 
Winzer said:
Ok, so the position vector of the space station is r(t)=<6,4,9>, and r'(t) has to be parallel being r'(t)=<6,4,9> or some scalar multiple.
This means we must solve for t in r'(t) when r'(t)=<6,4,9>?
[tex]r'(t)=<1,\frac{1}{t},\frac{4t}{(t^2+1)^2}>[/tex]

You've already been told, twice, that this is wrong. The vector from the ship to the space station is <6, 4, 9>- r(t). You must have r' equal to that.
 

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