Calc III : Spaceship reaching a space station at constant velocity.

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The problem involves a spaceship's position function given by r(t) = (5t+9)i+(2t²-1)j+t²k, with the goal of reaching a space station located at P(54,89,45) while maintaining a constant velocity. The captain needs to determine when to turn off the engines to achieve this.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the dot product of acceleration and the vector from the spaceship to the station, as well as finding the angle of the tangent vector towards the station. There are considerations about whether to treat the axes separately and the implications of the x-coordinate on the timing of the arrival.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the problem may have a straightforward solution for determining when to turn off acceleration, while others express uncertainty about the need for separate treatments of the y and z directions. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential complexity of the problem and question the nature of the gravitational field affecting the spaceship's motion, which may influence their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


The Position Function of a spaceship is
r(t) = (5t+9)i+(2t2-1)j+t2k
and the coordinates of a space station are P(54,89,45). The captain wants the spaceship to reach the space station in constant velocity. When should the engines be turned off?

Homework Equations


r'(t) = v(t)= <5,4t,2t>

and

r''(t) = v'(t)= a(t) <0,4,2>


The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to use the dot product of a(t) * [P-v(t)] but that doesn't work :l I also thought of finding the angle of the tangent vector that shots towards P in order to find the time but I end up confusing myself afterwards D;
 
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mimzy said:

Homework Statement


The Position Function of a spaceship is
r(t) = (5t+9)i+(2t2-1)j+t2k
and the coordinates of a space station are P(54,89,45). The captain wants the spaceship to reach the space station in constant velocity. When should the engines be turned off?

Homework Equations


r'(t) = v(t)= <5,4t,2t>

and

r''(t) = v'(t)= a(t) <0,4,2>


The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to use the dot product of a(t) * [P-v(t)] but that doesn't work :l I also thought of finding the angle of the tangent vector that shots towards P in order to find the time but I end up confusing myself afterwards D;

Your second idea is the right one. You want the vector between the ship and the station to be parallel to the velocity of the ship with the velocity vector pointing at the station. Then you can shut the engine off and then just cruise in. So you want to solve [P-r(t)]=k*v(t) with a value of k>0.
 
What kind of gravity field is the ship operating in? ;-)

OK ignore that. But it does seem to me that the x ordinate implies a definite value of t that we need to arrive at. I haven't pursued the rest of the equations to find out if there is one time we can turn off acceleration in both y and z directions, or whether they require separate treatment.
 
Joffan said:
What kind of gravity field is the ship operating in? ;-)

OK ignore that. But it does seem to me that the x ordinate implies a definite value of t that we need to arrive at. I haven't pursued the rest of the equations to find out if there is one time we can turn off acceleration in both y and z directions, or whether they require separate treatment.

You are over complicating it. This question is rigged to give you a simple solution for a value of t to set the acceleration to zero.
 
Well, Dick, I feel it's good practice to work the two axes out separately, and we are in the Calculus+ section. But now I've actually done the working, I see what you mean - but only once I had the same quadratics in both y & z cases.

For mimzy: I set a tc for the cutoff time and recast the equations using that (and your velocity information). If I'd had to, I would have had a ta for arrival as well, but that wasn't necessary in this case.
 

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