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The discussion focuses on finding a direction to walk on the graph of the function f(x,y) = y cos(πx) - x cos(πy) + 10 at the point (2,1,13) without changing the level. The gradient at this point is calculated as <1,1>, leading to the equation <1,1> · u = 0, which suggests that u = <0,0> is a trivial solution. However, the correct approach requires identifying nontrivial solutions that satisfy the perpendicularity condition ⊥ <1,1>, indicating multiple valid directions to maintain the same level.

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Homework Statement


You are walking on the graph of ##f(x,y) = y cos(\pi x) - x cos(\pi y) + 10##, standing at the point ##(2,1,13)##. Find an x, y-direction you should walk into stay at the same level.

Homework Equations


##D_u f = \nabla \cdot \textbf{u}##

The Attempt at a Solution


The directional derivative is the rate of change in the direction of ##\textbf{u}##, so we want the rate of change in the direction of ##\textbf{u}## to not change, i.e. ##\nabla \cdot \textbf{u} = \textbf{0}##. So calculating the gradient gives ##<1,1>##. Then ##<1,1> \cdot \textbf{u} = \textbf{0}##. So that means ##\textbf{u} = <0,0>##, but this is incorrect. Why?
 
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E7.5 said:

Homework Statement


You are walking on the graph of ##f(x,y) = y cos(\pi x) - x cos(\pi y) + 10##, standing at the point ##(2,1,13)##. Find an x, y-direction you should walk into stay at the same level.


Homework Equations


##D_u f = \nabla \cdot \textbf{u}##


The Attempt at a Solution


The directional derivative is the rate of change in the direction of ##\textbf{u}##, so we want the rate of change in the direction of ##\textbf{u}## to not change, i.e. ##\nabla \cdot \textbf{u} = \textbf{0}##. So calculating the gradient gives ##<1,1>##. Then ##<1,1> \cdot \textbf{u} = \textbf{0}##. So that means ##\textbf{u} = <0,0>##, but this is incorrect. Why?

Because going along ##\vec{u} = <0,0>## gets you nowhere: any multiple of 0 is still 0! What is the general criterion for the condition ##<u_x,u_y> \perp <1,1>##, expressed as an equation or equations involving ##u_x, \, u_y##?
 
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Then ##<1,1> \cdot \textbf{u} = \textbf{0}##. So that means ##\textbf{u} = <0,0>##,
By definition, you need a nontrivial solution of <1,1>.u = 0. u = <0,0> is not the only solution.
 

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