Surface Integral with Parametrization

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The problem involves evaluating a surface integral of the form \(\int\int _{S} \sqrt{1 + x^2 + y^2} dS\), where \(S\) is parametrized by \(\textbf{r}(u,v) = u\cdot \cos(v)\textbf{i}+u\cdot \sin(v)\textbf{j}+v\textbf{k}\) for \(0 \leq u \leq 1\) and \(0 \leq v \leq \pi\). The discussion centers around the calculation of the differential area element \(dS\) and the integral itself.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of \(dS\) using the cross product of partial derivatives of the parametrization. There are questions about the clarity of the original poster's work and whether it is complete enough for others to verify the answer.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes a detailed calculation of \(dS\) and the integral, with one participant confirming the correctness of the original poster's final result. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach taken, as some participants express a need for more detailed steps to validate the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a suggestion that the original poster should provide more detailed work to facilitate verification of their answer. The discussion reflects a learning environment where assumptions and calculations are being scrutinized.

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Homework Statement


\int\int _{S} \sqrt{1 + x^2 + y^2} dS
Given that S is the surface of which \textbf{r}(u,v) = u\cdot cos(v)\textbf{i}+u\cdot sin(v)\textbf{j}+v\textbf{k} is a parametrization. (0 \leq u \leq 1, 0 \leq v \leq \pi)

Homework Equations


dS = \left| \frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial u} \times \frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial v} \right| du dv


The Attempt at a Solution


I think the answer is \frac{4}{3}\pi, because dS = \sqrt{1+u^2}du dv and \sqrt{1+x^2+y^2} = \sqrt{1+u^2} using the given parameterization.
 
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Is there a question there? Do you expect us to work it out for ourselves just to check your answer? If you would show your work we could tell you at a glance whether or not your answer is correct.
 
Alright, this was my full calculation:
dS = \left| \frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial u} \times \frac{\partial \vec{r}}{\partial v} \right| du dv<br /> \\= \left| (cos(v), sin(v), 0) \times (-u\cdot sin(v),u\cdot cos(v), 1) \right| du dv<br /> \\= \left| (sin(v),-cos(v),u\cdot (cos^2(x) + sin^2(x))) \right| du dv<br /> \\= |(sin(v),-cos(v),u)| du dv<br /> \\= \sqrt{cos^2(v)+sin^2(v)+u^2} du dv<br /> \\= \sqrt{1+u^2}du dv

\int\int_{S} \sqrt{1+x^2+y^2}dS = \int_0^\pi \int_0^1 \sqrt{1+r_1(u,v)^2+r_2(u,v)^2} \cdot \sqrt{1+u^2} du dv<br /> \\=\int_0^\pi \int_0^1 \sqrt{1+(u\cdot cos(v))^2+(u\cdot sin(v))^2}\cdot \sqrt{1+u^2} du dv<br /> \\=\int_0^\pi \int_0^1 \sqrt{1+u^2} \sqrt{1+u^2} du dv<br /> \\=\int_0^\pi \int_0^1 (1+u^2) dudv<br /> \\=\int_0^\pi \frac{4}{3}dv<br /> \\=\frac{4}{3} \pi<br />
 
Very good. Yes it looks correct.
 
Thanks! :)
 

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