Finding Acceleration in a Moving Particle

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The problem involves a particle moving in the xy-plane with constant acceleration. The initial position, final position, and final velocity are provided at specific time intervals, and the task is to determine the acceleration vector and the particle's state at a later time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find acceleration, with one participant noting a discrepancy between their calculated acceleration and the textbook answer. Questions arise regarding the treatment of initial velocity and the assumptions made in the calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the importance of considering initial velocity in the equations. One participant has acknowledged a misunderstanding regarding the initial conditions and is exploring the correct approach to solve for the unknowns.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption that the particle starts at rest, which is questioned by other participants. The problem involves solving for two unknowns using the provided equations and known values.

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Homework Statement


A particle moves in the xy-plane with constant acceleration. The particle is located at r= (2i + 4j)m at t=0 s. At t=3 s it is at r=(8i - 2j) m and has a velocity v= ( 5i - 5j) m/s.
a) What is the particle's acceleration vector a?
b) What are its position, velocity and speed at t= 5s?


Homework Equations


xf= xo + vt+ 0.5 a t^2
yf= yo + vt+ 0.5 a t^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I used the above two equations to solve for the acceleration in both x and y components separately and I got a= (1.33i - 1.33j), but the answer at the back of the textbook is a= (2i - 2j). I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Can someone guide me please? Thanks in advance!
 
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Hi habibclan,

In your equations, the v is the initial velocity, and it appears that you plugged in 0 for that. However, this particle does not start at rest, and the initial velocity is unknown. (So your x equation, for example, has two unknowns--the initial velocity in the x direction and the acceleration in the x direction.)

However, you do also know the final velocity in the x direction. Do you see what to do with that?
 
For the equation, i plug in the initial and final x-component position, the initial velocity as 0, and t=3 s and solve for a.

xf= xo + vt+ 0.5 a t^2
8 = 2 + 0.5*a * (3^2)
a= 1.33

Therefore, the acceleration of the x-component is 1.33 m/s^2

For this one, its the same as above, except i plug in the intial and final y-comp. positions.

yf= yo + vt+ 0.5 a t^2
-2=4 + 0.5*a* (3^2)
a= -1.33

Therefore, acceleration of the y-comp. is -1.33 m/s^2.

What am I doing wrong please?
 
The initial velocity is unknown you'll have to solve 2 equations with two unknowns.
 
alphysicist said:
Hi habibclan,

In your equations, the v is the initial velocity, and it appears that you plugged in 0 for that. However, this particle does not start at rest, and the initial velocity is unknown. (So your x equation, for example, has two unknowns.)

However, you do also know the final velocity in the x direction. Do you see what to do with that?

I got it! Thank you so much! I used the equation vf= vi + at to solve for initial velocity and then plugged it in. Stupid of me to assume that the initial velocity was 0. Thanks a lot!
 

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