Finding Areas of Regions Bounded by Trig Functions Using Integrals

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the exact total areas bounded by the functions f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x) within the interval from x = 0 to x = 2π. Participants are exploring the integration of these trigonometric functions and the points of intersection that determine the limits of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to identify the points where the functions intersect to set the limits for integration. There is uncertainty about which function is on top in different intervals and how to correctly set up the integrals for calculating the area.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints about determining the intersection points and the order of the functions. There is an ongoing exploration of how to calculate the area for each region separately, and participants are sharing their approaches to finding the anti-derivatives and evaluating the integrals.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of using a graphing calculator and the need to adjust the viewing window. Participants express confusion about the integration limits and the expected form of the final answer, indicating a lack of clarity on how to interpret the results in terms of pi.

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Homework Statement


Find the exact total of the areas bounded by the following functions:

f(x) = sinx

g(x) = cosx

x = 0

x = 2pi


Homework Equations


the integral of (top equation - bottom equation)

The Attempt at a Solution



Change the window on the graphing calculator to an x scale of 2pi?
I'm having trouble finding where x = 2pi.

the integral of (cosx - sinx)
to me, cosine appears to be the top equation

Take the anti-derivative of them both---> (-sinx - cosx) (if i remember correctly)

Finding the bounds for the integral is what I'm having problems with. Any hints or suggestions would help me out. This is the last stretch of my ap calculus class, and I guess my brain is starting to fizz out!

Thank you everyone!:cool:
 
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If you've drawn the picture as you should, it ought to be clear that the integration limits need to be set where the curves cross. So at how many points do cos(x) and sin(x) cross between 0 and 2pi. Hint: sin(x)=cos(x) -> sin(x)/cos(x)=tan(x)=1.
 
calchelpneeded9 said:

Homework Equations


the integral of (top equation - bottom equation)

What Dick was saying is that you are right, it has to be the integral of the function on top minus the function on bottom. However, through 0 to 2pi, is cosine always on top?
 
thank you! ok...

From what I can tell, there appears to be three intersections of the two functions. It looks like cos is on top for the first one, and sin on the second, but I'm not sure about the third one.

Once I know that, would I then subtract each pair of sin/cos intersections and then take the anti derivatives of them?

This would then give me the equation I plug in 2pi, find a value, and subtract the value I found using 0 from it? (top - bottom)

Thanks.. I'm still a little stumped!:frown:
 
Ok well now that you know which function is on top for each intersection, you need to find the area for each region separately.

Say for the first region before they intersect, cos is on top. The you have cos x- sin x. Find the anti derivative and then sub in the bounds of the integral as you normally do. Once you have done this for the first section, do the same for the next.
 
ok

Thank you for all your help!

what I have now is:

the integral from 0-(pi/4) of: cosx-sinx +

the integral from (pi/4)-(5pi/4) of: sinx-cosx +

the integral from (5pi/4)-(2pi) of: cosx-sinx

I need the exact area..so I thought I would get the same values (for the first integral) by using unit circle values and using FnInt.

Unfortunately, I got different answers for FnInt and using:

[cos (sqrt2/2)- sin (sqrt2/2)] - 1

I thought I was supposed to get an answer in terms of pi?
 
Nope, why would you think that! The anti derivatives, sin and cos, are sort of pi eliminators! Sub in a pi thing, get back 1/sqrt 2 or 1 or 0, no more pi! The area won't be in terms of pi!
 
ok

so just by adding the values returned by those 3 integrals and not rounding, I should have my exact answer! thank you. :)
 

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