Finding Charge From Changing Magnetic Flux

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a flexible square loop with a given resistance and an external magnetic field. The loop is being crushed, leading to a change in area and consequently a change in magnetic flux. Participants are tasked with finding the total charge flowing through the wire as the loop's area approaches zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between changing area and magnetic flux, with some attempting to calculate induced emf and current. Questions arise regarding the validity of their calculations and the application of relevant laws, such as Gauss' Law and the relationship between current and charge.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the steps taken. Some express uncertainty about their methods, while others confirm the correctness of certain calculations. No explicit consensus has been reached, but productive dialogue continues.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific parameters given (resistance, magnetic field strength, and time) and the assignment's focus on Maxwell's Equations. There is a noted confusion regarding the application of Gauss' Law in this context.

SeannyBoi71
Messages
84
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


In the figure, a flexible square loop 0.700 m on a side is made of wire of resistance 0.600 Ω. A magnetic field with magnitude 1.70 T is directed onto the plane of the loop. A student crushes the wires together forming a loop of zero area in 0.350 s. Find the total amount of charge flowing through the wire.




Homework Equations



Maxwell's equations such as
∫E[itex]\cdot[/itex]dA = Qenclosed/epsilon nought


The Attempt at a Solution


Now I am having trouble starting this question. I am thinking that because the loop is being crushed, the area is going to be changing, which means magnetic flux is changing because [itex]\Phi[/itex]B=BA. And I know that magnetic flux somehow influences electric flux (forget the name of the law for this), so I'll have to use the equation listed above. Any hints please?
 

Attachments

  • 29.27.jpg
    29.27.jpg
    1.6 KB · Views: 612
Physics news on Phys.org
Here's what I tried. I calculated PhiB = 0.833. This next part is where I'm not sure I can actually do this. I just divided .833 by the time .35 and got dPhi/dt = 2.38, so the EMF induced is -2.38 V. Then I went V=Ed and got E= .85 Vm-1. Then used Gauss' Law Qenclosed = epsilon nought * E * A = 3.69 pC. This seems like an extremely small amount so I haven't entered my answer yet. Also I'm not sure if I can do half the things I did here lol.
 
I calculated the flux through the loop.
Induced emf = change in flux per second
Current = emf/R
Current = coulombs per second... should give you the charge in coulombs (I got 1.38)
 
Okay so that's right. So I was right about being able to divide B by time. But I thought current was the rate of change of charge? So why can we just use it as charge per unit time?
 
You are correct... amps = coulombs per second.
I calculated the current from V/R ... V = induced emf, R =0.600ohms
I got the voltage to be 2.38... the same as you.
I am not certain what your V = Ed means !
 
technician said:
You are correct... amps = coulombs per second.
I calculated the current from V/R ... V = induced emf, R =0.600ohms
I got the voltage to be 2.38... the same as you.
I am not certain what your V = Ed means !

I was mistaken and thought I would have to use Gauss' Law because the assignment name is 'Maxwell's Equations"... so I tried solving for the electric field induced but it definitely didn't work.
 
Are you convinced by what I did !?
 
Yes I am. I did and and the answer was correct. I was just making sense of something we did.
 
great... well done
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
965
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
9K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K