Finding Critical Points in g(x) = 4x - tanx

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The discussion revolves around finding critical points for the function g(x) = 4x - tan(x) and subsequently for f(x) = 2cos(x) + sin(2x). Participants explore the derivatives of these functions and the conditions under which critical points occur.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find critical points by calculating the derivative of g(x) and identifying where it equals zero or is undefined. They express uncertainty about the completeness of their critical points list. Another participant questions the correctness of the derivative steps and suggests an alternative approach to finding critical points. The discussion then shifts to a new function, f(x), where the original poster seeks assistance in applying trigonometric identities to simplify the derivative for solving critical points.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing feedback on derivative calculations and suggesting methods for simplifying expressions. There is a recognition of errors in the original poster's approach, and guidance is offered on how to express trigonometric functions to facilitate finding roots.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the transition from one problem to another, indicating a potential shift in focus from calculus to pre-calculus/trigonometry. There is an acknowledgment of the need for identities in solving the derivative of f(x).

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Homework Statement


g(x) = 4x - tanx

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The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]g(\theta) = 4\theta - tan\theta[/tex]
[tex]g'(\theta)=4-sec^{2}\theta[/tex]
[tex]g'(\theta)=\frac{4cos^{2}\theta-1}{cos^{2}\theta}[/tex]
[tex]g'(\theta)=\frac{-4sin^{2}\theta}{cos^{2}\theta}[/tex]
[tex]-4tan^{2}\theta=0[/tex]
[tex]-4(tan\theta)(tan\theta)=0[/tex]
[tex]\theta = arctan0[/tex]
[tex]\theta = k\pi[/tex]

So, that lists the zeros of the derivative if I am correct. I believe the other critical points are pi/2 + kpi, where tan is undefined. That is all of the critical points correct?
 
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You made an error:

QuarkCharmer said:
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[tex]g'(\theta)=\frac{4cos^{2}\theta-1}{cos^{2}\theta}[/tex]
[tex]g'(\theta)=\frac{-4sin^{2}\theta}{cos^{2}\theta}[/tex]
...

We have cos² θ + sin² θ = 1, but 4 cos² θ - 1 = 4 (1 - sin² θ) - 1 = 3 - 4 \sin² θ.

Instead you should simply set

4 cos² θ - 1 = 0,

which gives you cos θ = ±½.
 
Thank you, yeah I caught that right after I posted. Now I am stuck on another problem. I suppose this should more or less be posted in the pre-calc/trig section.

Finding the critical points of:
[tex]f(x)=2cos(x)+sin(2x)[/tex]
[tex]f(x)=2cos(x)+2sin(x)cos(x)[/tex]

[tex]f'(x)=-2sin(x)+2(cos^{2}(x)-sin^{2}(x))[/tex]
[tex]f'(x)=-2sin(x)+2cos^{2}(x)-2sin^{2}(x)[/tex]

I just know there is a pythag. identity in there somewhere to aid in solving for 0.
 
Well, just express the cosine by the sine using the Pythagorean identity to get f'(x) = -2 sin x + 2 - 4 sin² x, which is a polynomial in z = sin x with roots z = -1/4 ± 3/4. Then you calculate the x corresponding to those values of sin x. That's a standard trick to solve trigonometric equations - if you have odd powers of only one trigonometric function (here sin), express the other (here cos) and you get a polynomial in the first trig function.
 

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