Finding Equilibrium Solutions & Stability of $(1)$

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The discussion focuses on finding the equilibrium solutions and determining their stability for a system of differential equations given by $(1)$. Participants explore the behavior of solutions as time approaches infinity, considering various potential outcomes regarding stability and convergence.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies $(0,0)$ as the only equilibrium solution and proposes methods to find stability by computing the Jacobian matrix.
  • Another participant questions the definition of the partial derivative at the equilibrium point, suggesting it should be treated as a limit.
  • There is a calculation of the Jacobian matrix at $(0,0)$, leading to eigenvalues of $-1 \pm i$, which some participants interpret as indicating asymptotic stability.
  • Another participant challenges the interpretation of the eigenvalues, suggesting that negative real parts imply stability, while also noting that solutions near $(0,0)$ converge.
  • Participants discuss the limits of $x(t)$ and $y(t)$ for other solutions, indicating a need to analyze the behavior of solutions in relation to the equilibrium point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that $(0,0)$ is the only equilibrium solution and that the Jacobian matrix has been correctly computed. However, there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the eigenvalues and whether the equilibrium is asymptotically stable or unstable.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the behavior of solutions as time approaches infinity and the implications of the eigenvalues for stability. The discussion reflects different interpretations of mathematical results without reaching a consensus.

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Hello! (Wave)

I want to find the equilibrium solutions and determine their stability.

$(1)\left\{\begin{matrix}
\dot{x}=-y-x(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2\\
\dot{y}=x-y(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2
\end{matrix}\right.$

I also want to check the behavior of the solutions of $(1)$ when $t \to \infty$. There are four possible answers.

  1. there exists exactly one equilibrium solution and it is asymptotically stable. Furthermore, $\forall$ solution $(x,y)$ of $(1)$ we have that $\lim x(t)=x_0$ and $\lim y(t)=y_0$ where $(x_0,y_0)$ equilibrium solution.
  2. there exists exactly one equilibrium solution and it is asymptotically stable. Furthermore, $\forall$ solution $(x,y)$ of $(1)$ we have that $\lim x(t) \neq x_0$ and $\lim y(t) \neq y_0$ where $(x_0,y_0)$ equilibrium solution.
  3. $\exists$ exactly one equilibrium solution and it is stable but not asymptotically stable. Also $\forall$ solution $(x,y) \neq (x_0, y_0)$ of $(1)$ we have that $\lim x(t) \neq x_0$ and $\lim y(t) \neq y_0$ where $(x_0,y_0)$ is the equilibrium solution.
  4. $\exists$ exactly one equilibrium solution and it is stable but not asymptotically stable. Also $\forall$ solution $(x,y) \neq (x_0, y_0)$ of $(1)$ with $x^2(0)+y^2(0)>1$ we have that $x^2(t)+y^2(t) \geq 1$.
  5. $\exists$ exactly one equilibrium solution and it is unstable. $\forall$ other solution $(x,y)$ of $(1)$ we have that $\lim (x^2(t)+y^2(t))=1$.
I have thought the following so far.In order to find the equilibrium solutions, we set $\dot{x}=0$ and $\dot{y}=0$.

$\dot{x}=0 \Rightarrow -y-x (1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2=0 (\star)$

and

$\dot{y}=0 \Rightarrow x-y (1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2=0 \Rightarrow x=y(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2$

$(\star): -y-y(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^4=0 \Rightarrow y=0 \text{ or } 1+(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^4=0, \text{ which is rejected}$.

So $y=0$ and $x=0$.So $(0,0)$ is the only equilibrium solution.

If we set $f_1(x,y)=-y-x(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2$ and $f_2(x)=x-y(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2$, then we have

$\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}=-(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2+\frac{2x^2(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$.Is this right?

Because in order to determine the stability, we compute the Jacobi matrix at the equilibrium solution, but $\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}(0,0)$ is not defined.

Am I doing something wrong? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
So $(0,0)$ is the only equilibrium solution.

If we set $f_1(x,y)=-y-x(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2$ and $f_2(x)=x-y(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2$, then we have

$\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}=-(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})^2+\frac{2x^2(1-\sqrt{x^2+y^2})}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$.

Is this right?

Because in order to determine the stability, we compute the Jacobi matrix at the equilibrium solution, but $\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}(0,0)$ is not defined.

Am I doing something wrong?

Hey evinda!

$\pd {f_1}x$ is a limit isn't it?
More specifically:
$$\pd {f_1}x(0,0)=\lim_{h\to 0} \frac{f(0+h,0)-f(0,0)}{h} = \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{-h(1-\sqrt{h^2})^2-0}{h}=-1$$
(Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Hey evinda!

$\pd {f_1}x$ is a limit isn't it?
More specifically:
$$\pd {f_1}x(0,0)=\lim_{h\to 0} \frac{f(0+h,0)-f(0,0)}{h} = \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{-h(1-\sqrt{h^2})^2-0}{h}=-1$$
(Thinking)

Ah yes... Then we have

$$\pd {f_1}x(0,0)=-1 \\ \pd {f_1}y(0,0)=-1 \\ \pd {f_2}x(0,0)=1 \\ \pd {f_2}y(0,0)=-1$$

and thus the Jacobi matrix at $(0,0)$ gets the following form:

$J=\begin{pmatrix}
-1 & -1\\
1 & -1
\end{pmatrix}$, right?

Then we get that the eigenvalues are these ones: $-1 \pm i$ and so $Re(\lambda_1)=Re(\lambda_2)=-1<0$ which implies that the equilibrium is asymptotically unstable.Is the above correct so far? (Thinking)
 
What can we say about the limits $\lim x(t)$ and $\lim y(t)$ where $(x,y)$ any other solution of the problem? (Thinking)
 
evinda said:
... and thus the Jacobi matrix at $(0,0)$ gets the following form:

$J=\begin{pmatrix}
-1 & -1\\
1 & -1
\end{pmatrix}$, right?

Then we get that the eigenvalues are these ones: $-1 \pm i$ and so $Re(\lambda_1)=Re(\lambda_2)=-1<0$ which implies that the equilibrium is asymptotically unstable.

That's the correct Jacobian.
But doesn't $Re(\lambda_1)=Re(\lambda_2)=-1<0$ mean that it's stable? (Shake)
After all, the solutions are of the form $\tilde x=\tilde x_0 e^{\pm it} e^{-t}$, which converges doesn't it? (Wondering)

evinda said:
What can we say about the limits $\lim x(t)$ and $\lim y(t)$ where $(x,y)$ any other solution of the problem? (Thinking)

Let's take a look at a streamplot:
View attachment 8409
What does it show us about those limits? (Wondering)

EDIT: Note in particular that solutions close to (0,0) converge.
Therefore (0,0) is asymptotically stable.
 

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