Finding Limits: ln and L'hopital's Rule Explained

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of ln(2x^p + 3y^p) as p approaches 0, focusing on the application of L'Hôpital's Rule. It was noted that plugging in zero does not yield an indeterminate form, indicating that L'Hôpital's Rule is not applicable. Instead, the limit can be approached by bounding the logarithmic function for small values of p. The importance of considering the signs and existence of ln(...) based on the non-negativity of x and y was emphasized, as it affects the limit's outcome. Overall, the limit requires careful analysis rather than straightforward application of L'Hôpital's Rule.
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lim[p\rightarrow0] \frac{ ln(2x^{p}+3y^{p})}{p^2}

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I first plugged in zero to see if i can you L'hopital's rule
I got a (constant)/0 which is not an indeterminant form.

If I can't use the rule, what should be my next step to find the limit?
( I kinda guessed that the the answer's infinity but I'm not sure)
 
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You don't need L'hopital's rule here since the numerator is always constant... The answer is more straight forward than you think...

What's lim [x->infinity] 1/(x^2) ?

edit: didn't notice that x was to the power of p...see office shredder's comment
 
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The numerator isn't constant, but it approaches one...
also, the limit is as p goes to 0, not infinity.

I suspect the easiest way to be rigorous is to bound ln(...) from above and below for small enough p, which gives you that constant/0 term. It's not always infinity though... you haev to be careful of the existence and sign of ln(...) depending on what values x and y take (note they have to be non-negative, or the limit definitely doesn't exist, for example)
 
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