Finding Max Current in an LR Circuit

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum current in an LR circuit, which consists of an inductor and a resistor connected in series to an oscillating source of emf. The parameters provided include the inductance, resistance, maximum voltage, and angular frequency of the source.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between current and voltage in circuits with resistance and reactance. Some question the need to solve a differential equation and explore alternative methods. Others seek clarification on how to combine the inductor and resistor in terms of their contributions to the circuit's behavior.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem without directly solving it. There is an exploration of the concepts of impedance and reactance, and participants are questioning the interpretation of the voltage equation and its relevance to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster may have misinterpreted the voltage equation by confusing time with the time constant. There is also a mention of the need to find inductive reactance and total impedance to relate maximum voltage and current in the circuit.

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Homework Statement



An LR circuit consists of an inductor with L = 2.3 × 10-4 H and a resistor with R = 1.10 Ω connected in series to an oscillating source of emf. This source generates a voltage
ε = εmaxsin( ωt)
with εmax = 0.80 V and ω = 6.00 × 104 rad/s. What is the maximum current in the circuit?

Homework Equations



ε = εmaxsin(ωt)

The Attempt at a Solution



ε = (0.80V)sin( 6.0E4 rad/s*time constant)
time constant = L/R = (2.3E-4 H/1.10 Ω) = 2.091e-4 H/Ω
ε = (0.80V)sin( 6.0E4 rad/s*2.091e-4 H/Ω)
ε = (0.80V)sin( 12.546)
ε = (0.80V)(0.2172)
ε = 0.1738 A

This is the incorrect answer. Any ideas where I am going wrong?
 
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Hold on, the question asks for the maximum current. What is the relation between current and voltage for a circuit that includes both resistance and reactance?
 
Is there a way to do this without solving a DE?
 
purduegirl said:

Homework Statement



An LR circuit consists of an inductor with L = 2.3 × 10-4 H and a resistor with R = 1.10 Ω connected in series to an oscillating source of emf. This source generates a voltage
ε = εmaxsin( ωt)
with εmax = 0.80 V and ω = 6.00 × 104 rad/s. What is the maximum current in the circuit?

Homework Equations



ε = εmaxsin(ωt)

The Attempt at a Solution



ε = (0.80V)sin( 6.0E4 rad/s*time constant)
time constant = L/R = (2.3E-4 H/1.10 Ω) = 2.091e-4 H/Ω
ε = (0.80V)sin( 6.0E4 rad/s*2.091e-4 H/Ω)
ε = (0.80V)sin( 12.546)
ε = (0.80V)(0.2172)
ε = 0.1738 A

This is the incorrect answer. Any ideas where I am going wrong?

A thing going wrong with your work here is that you have misinterpreted the equation for the voltage they gave you. The t in the voltage formula is the time, not the time constant. So the procedure you followed would find the voltage at the time t=2.091e-4 s.

Defennder said:
Is there a way to do this without solving a DE?

You can solve this problem without solving a DE. As marcusl indicated in the above post, there is a quantity that relates the maximum voltage and maximum current in this circuit (similar to the way that resistance relates voltage and current in a DC circuit); and this quantity has a standard formula for a series RLC circuit (or for a series RL AC circuit).
 
purduegirl,

You mentioned in another thread a question about this one. In case you haven't figured this out, I'll answer it here.

The formula you have listed in your relevant equations

ε = εmaxsin(ωt)

is not needed at all in this problem; this problem will not involve dealing with the time at all.


Let's go back to a simpler problem that you're probably familiar with. If you have a DC circuit, with just two resistors in series and an (ideal) battery, how would you find the current? You would probably add the two resistances together to get the total equivalent resistance. Once you got the total equivalent resistance, you would use Ohm's law V = I R to find the current in the circuit.


Now here we have an AC circuit, with a voltage source and two components (resistor and inductor). The idea is that we will follow the same type of procedure in this AC circuit as we did with the simple DC circuit.

So you need to "combine" the inductor and resistor (in much the same way that you combined resistors in DC circuits). How do you do that? What quantity do you get?

Once you calculate it, you'll use Ohm's law for AC circuits. For DC circuits, Ohm's law is V=IR; for the AC circuit version of Ohm's law the resistance R is replaced by the quantity you got from combining the inductor and resistor; have you found that formula yet?


(Sorry if you've already solved this problem.)
 
So for this type of circuit, the inductor and the resistor are in series. Would these be added L + R or 1/L + 1/R as in capitance?
 
One other question I have is, if added the inductor and the resistor are added to together, I get units of V/A + V*s/A. How would I make the units work so that they could be added together?
 
purduegirl said:
So for this type of circuit, the inductor and the resistor are in series. Would these be added L + R or 1/L + 1/R as in capitance?

No, it's not quite that straightforward. The L and R have different units, so they can't just be added together.

Instead, you'll first need to find a quantity called inductive reactance X_L. (If there were a capacitor in your equation, you would also need to find the capacitive reactance X_C.) Do you have those formulas?

Once you have the R, the X_L (and if you had it, the X_C), you need to calculate the impedance Z of the circuit. The impedance Z is the quantity that I was mentioning in my last post; in a sense, it plays the role that the total equivalent resistance played in the DC resistor circuits that you probably have already done a lot. There is a standard formula for Z for a series RLC circuit; do you find that one?

The total impedance of the circuit relates the maximum voltage and maximum current in the same way the the total resistance related V and I in DC circuits.
 
Thank you so much. I have been working on this problem for nearly a week!
 

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