Finding Moments for Elliptical Region

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The discussion revolves around finding moments for a region bounded by an ellipse, specifically using double integrals to calculate the moments M_{x} and M_{y}. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correct bounds for integration and the application of polar coordinates in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the need to correctly identify the bounds of integration, with one participant pointing out that the initially proposed bounds describe a rectangle rather than the ellipse. There is a suggestion to express the bounds as functions of one variable.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the use of polar coordinates for an elliptical region. Some guidance has been offered on how to approach the bounds and the transformation to polar coordinates, but no consensus has been reached on the final method.

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The original poster's initial bounds were based on a misunderstanding of the region described by the ellipse, leading to confusion in setting up the integrals. The discussion includes considerations of how to express the ellipse in polar coordinates, which differs from the standard circular case.

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Homework Statement



I'm not sure how to go about finding the following moments:

<br /> M_{x}= \int \int\ y dx dy
<br /> M_{y}= \int \int\ x dx dy

Where the region is bounded by the ellipse:
\frac{(x-2)^2}{16}} + \frac{(y-4)^2}{36}} = 1


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I drew the ellipse and found the bounds to be
-2 \leq y \leq10
-2 \leq x \leq 6

Then I tried integrating with those bounds, but I can't seem to get the right answers. Any help/hints would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Those boundaries describe a rectangle, not an ellipse. Do you see why?
 
Ooohh yes, you're right.

So does this mean that I have to find the bounds of my integral as functions?
Would I have to find the equation of the ellipse in terms of y, and make that my bounds for the y-integral. and then keep the x integral as numbers?

like D = {(x,y)| a \leq x \leq b, g_{1}\leq y \leq g_{2}}
 
Yes that's what you would do. This problem may be easier in polar coordinates.
 
Actually I just found out that I might have to use polar coordinates.
But since the region is not a circle, but an ellipse, how would I be able to write my x and y in polar coordinate form?
Normally we have x=rcos(theta), and y=rsin(theta) for a circle.

would it be...
x=4rcos(theta) + 2
y=6rsin(theta) + 4
 
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