Finding Mu Without Friction Data

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This discussion addresses the challenge of determining the coefficient of friction (mu) without direct friction data in a physics lab experiment involving inelastic collisions. The user seeks to utilize available variables such as mass, initial velocity, time in air, and displacement to derive mu. A suggested method involves using a known mass on cardboard to measure the force required to pull it across a surface, thereby allowing for the calculation of mu through the formula (0.259kg(vf-0m/s)/0.63s)/2.54N. This approach provides a practical solution for obtaining friction data indirectly.

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We are doing a lab nearly verbatim to the one at this link, http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=2&filename=Momentum_InelasticCollisionsSoftball.xml" However, under #6 in data and procedure I had forgotten to measure frictional force. Is there anyway to find mu or force of friction using the mass of the ball, initial velocity, time in air, distance thrown form box, mass of box and packaging, Fn, and box displacement?


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Inelastic collision formula
momentum formulas

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N/A stumped without formula to find mu or Ff, data not collected so I don't know how to work the real problem which I can do otherwise. Vf could also help me find Mu by using (0.259kg(vf-0m/s/0.63s))/2.54N = mu
 
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You can find mu if you can take a bit of cardboard to a floor surface similar to the one you used in the experiment. Put any known mass on the cardboard and pull it along the floor with a force scale. If you can't get your hands on a scale, use an elastic band, measure its stretch, then find some way to achieve that same stretch with known forces. Likely you can look up the mass of coins and calculate their mg if no easier method comes to mind!
 
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