Finding Polynomial Graphs Through Given Points with Linear Algebra

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The discussion revolves around finding all polynomials of degree less than or equal to 2 that pass through specific points and satisfy a definite integral condition. The subject area includes polynomial functions and integral calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conditions needed to determine the polynomial coefficients and how to set up the corresponding equations. There are questions about when to apply the integral and how to derive equations from the given points and integral condition.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on setting up equations based on the polynomial form and the conditions given. There is an ongoing exploration of the integral's role in forming the necessary equations, and some participants are verifying their calculations and interpretations of the integral.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the integral and the resulting equations, as well as the implications of having infinitely many solutions in the context of the matrix formed from the equations. Participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the correctness of their approaches.

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Ok, so I grasped how to some versions of this question, but one question in the book is
asking to find all the polynomials of degree <= 2 whose graphs run through the points (1,1) and (2,0) such that integral (from 1 to 2) of f(t) dt = -1.


I have never done anything like this, so if anyone can help, thank you
 
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Don't let the integral fool you! It's more of the same. What is the definite integral of ax^2+bx+c from 1 to 2? Do the definite integral and you will see that you still have the same three unknowns.
 
ok, but at what point do I apply the integral?
 
You have three conditions. Applying those conditions will still give you three linear equation in three unknowns. Compute the integral in terms of a,b and c.
 
Knowing that you can write the polynomial y= ax2+ bx+ c, what equation does x=1, y=1? x= 2, y= 0? x= 2, y= 0? And, of course, what equation, for a, b, and c, do you get from \int_1^2 (ax^2+ bx+ c)dx= -1?
 
I am doing the matrix for

a + b +c =1
and
4a + 2b + c =1

but het infinitely many solutions. Can you help me by saying if this is the correct matrix?
 
frasifrasi said:
I am doing the matrix for

a + b +c =1
and
4a + 2b + c =1

but het infinitely many solutions. Can you help me by saying if this is the correct matrix?

You have a third equation. Work out the integral Halls was kind enough to write out.
 
I know this is a stupid question, but I am getting

7/3a + 3/2b + c = -1 for the integral. Can anyone confirm this? It is just the answer doesn't seem right.
 
frasifrasi said:
I know this is a stupid question, but I am getting

7/3a + 3/2b + c = -1 for the integral. Can anyone confirm this? It is just the answer doesn't seem right.

That's right.
 
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Dick or anyone,

My book is terrible so I am having to research a lot of topics.

For the dot product of the col matrix
1
2
3

and

1
-2
1

I am getting
1
-4
3

just by multiplying, is this the correct way? how does this differ from matrix multiplication(cross product) once you are dealing with larger matrices?
 
  • #11
The dot product is the SUM of the products of the vector components. It's a scalar. In this case 1-4+3=0. If you work through matrix multiplication, you'll see you are building a matrix by taking dot products of row vectors and transposed column vectors.
 

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