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The discussion revolves around finding the radius of a specific circle, ##C_n##, in a configuration of circles arranged along a line, where all points of tangency are distinct. The problem involves understanding the relationships between the radii of these circles and their geometric arrangement.

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  • Participants discuss the use of coordinate systems and the Pythagorean theorem to derive relationships between the circles' radii. Questions arise about how to determine specific coordinates and distances necessary for calculations. There is also mention of setting up simultaneous equations to find the radius of the smaller circle.

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The conversation includes various attempts to derive the radius, with some participants suggesting geometric approaches and others expressing uncertainty about missing information. There is acknowledgment of a potential expression for ##r_n##, but no consensus on the method or final outcome has been reached.

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Participants note the importance of specific distances and relationships in the geometric setup, indicating that some information may be lacking or assumptions need to be clarified for a complete solution.

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Homework Statement


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In this problem, we have a row of circles placed on a line. All points of tangency are distinct. The circle ##C_n## is uniquely determined.


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The Attempt at a Solution


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Radius of ##C_n## = ##r_n##
Radius of ##\Gamma_n## = ##1/2^n##
Radius of ##\Gamma_{n+1}## = ##1/2^{n+1}##.

Therefore AB, BC and AC can be easily calculated but how do I calculate ##r_n##. I can't perform the summation until I don't find ##r_n##.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


(see attachment 1)

In this problem, we have a row of circles placed on a line. All points of tangency are distinct. The circle ##C_n## is uniquely determined.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Here's the sketch I drew for the problem.
2zdwpol.png


Radius of ##C_n## = ##r_n##
Radius of ##\Gamma_n## = ##1/2^n##
Radius of ##\Gamma_{n+1}## = ##1/2^{n+1}##.

Therefore AB, BC and AC can be easily calculated but how do I calculate ##r_n##. I can't perform the summation until I don't find ##r_n##.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Try working in a coordinate system with the origin at the point of contact between the largest circle and the line.

Use Pythagoras theorem to solve for the x-coordinate of the center of the circle of intermediate size.

Now set up quadratic simult. equations using Pythagoras theorem to solve for the radius of the small circle. The other variable is the x-coordinate of the small circle, which you don't really need.

It should reduce to a nice expression. The rest becomes quite easy, two geometric sums, etc.
 
Curious3141 said:
Try working in a coordinate system with the origin at the point of contact between the largest circle and the line.

Use Pythagoras theorem to solve for the x-coordinate of the center of the circle of intermediate size.

With centre B? How will I find the x-coordinate, I don't have the distance of B from origin. :(
 
You can find some right-angle triangles...

ehild
 

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Pranav-Arora said:
With centre B? How will I find the x-coordinate, I don't have the distance of B from origin. :(

What ehild said. Red triangle for the first part. Blue and green for the second part (simultaneous quadratics).

The first equation is easy peasy. The simult. quadratics are a bit icky. But you get a nice expression for ##r_n## in the end.
 
ehild said:
You can find some right-angle triangles...

ehild

I marked the points. (see attachment)

AH=\frac{1}{2^n}-\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}
AB=\frac{1}{2^n}+\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}
BH^2=\left(\frac{1}{2^n}+\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}\right)^2-\left(\frac{1}{2^n}-\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}\right)^2
BH=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2^n}

Calculating EG:
AE=\frac{1}{2^n}-r_n
AG=\frac{1}{2^n}+r_n
Hence
EG^2=\left(\frac{1}{2^n}+r_n\right)^2-\left(\frac{1}{2^n}-r_n\right)^2
EG=2\sqrt{\frac{r_n}{2^n}}

Calculating FG:
BF=\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}-r_n
BG=\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}+r_n
FG^2=\left(\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}+r_n \right)^2-\left(\frac{1}{2^{n+1}}-r_n \right)^2
FG=\sqrt{2r_n}{2^n}

Since, EG+FG=BH
\sqrt{\frac{2r_n}{2^n}}+2\sqrt{\frac{r_n}{2^n}}= \frac { \sqrt {2} }{ 2^n }
Solving this for ##r_n##
r_n=\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^{2n}(\sqrt{2}-1)^2

Thanks a lot both of you. If I perform the summation with this expression. I get the right answer. :smile:

The answer I get is ##3-\sqrt{8}##.
 

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