Finding Real Numbers for Complex Number Division

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The discussion revolves around finding real numbers c and d that satisfy the equation \(\frac{1}{a+bi}=c+di\), where a and b are real numbers. The focus is on understanding the relationship between the real and imaginary components of complex numbers.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the use of complex conjugates to simplify the division of complex numbers. There is discussion on equating real and imaginary parts after manipulation. Some participants express confusion about the definitions of real and imaginary parts of complex numbers.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different methods for approaching the division of complex numbers. There is a productive exchange regarding the definitions of real and imaginary components, with some clarifying statements made about the nature of these parts.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the terminology of real and imaginary parts, particularly in distinguishing between the coefficients and the terms themselves. This may affect the understanding of the problem setup.

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Suppose that a and b are real numbers, not both 0. Find real numbers c and d such that

[tex]\frac{1}{a+bi}=c+di[/tex]

What do they mean find c & d? That's two unknowns is it not?

Anyway. My attempt:

[tex]\begin{array} \frac{1}/({a+bi})=c+di\\ \Rightarrow (a+bi)(c+di)=1\\\Rightarrow ac-bd+(ad+bc)i=1\\\Rightarrow \frac{1+bd-ac}{ad+bc}=i\end{array}[/tex]

Now I know that I could square both sides to get rid of i, but I am not sure how whether that will help or hurt.
 
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Squaring won't get rid of the i. Use complex conjugates. Multiply the left side by (a-bi)/(a-bi). Equate real and imaginary parts.
 
Dick said:
Squaring won't get rid of the i. Use complex conjugates. Multiply the left side by (a-bi)/(a-bi). Equate real and imaginary parts.

Okay. But why won't squaring both sides of my last line get rid of i? I mean, it will leave me dead in the water, but the RHS will surely be -1 right? (Just want to be sure i am not missing something big here)
 
If I multiply the original EQ by the conjugate I get

[tex]\frac{a-bi}{a^2+b^2}=c+di[/tex]

I am not sure what you mean by equate the real and imaginary parts? Sorry, I have never really used complex numbers :redface:

on the LHS, I have the complex number [tex]\frac{a}{a^2+b^2}+\frac{-b}{a^2+b^2}i[/tex]

Does that form help my plight?
 
Sure. The real part of the left side is a/(a^2+b^2), the real part of the right side is c. So c=a/(a^2+b^2). (a,b,c,d are REAL). Now equate the imaginary parts of both sides. You are supposed to find c and d in terms of a and b.
 
Ohhhhh. i see where my confusion lies. a and be are real numbers, BUT we refer to the quantity (b*i) as the imaginary PART right?

i is the only imaginary number but b*i is the imaginary part
 
If you have a complex number a+ib, then a is the real part and b is the imaginary part not ib.
 
In other words, the imaginary part is the coefficient of i. That means that both the real part and the imaginary part are real numbers.
 
and bi is an imaginary number, not only i.
 
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Unfortunately, you can find as many authoritative statements that the "imaginary part" of a+ bi is "bi" as you can that it is "b". Fortunately, it is not a critical distinction.
If
[tex]\frac{a- bi}{a^2+ b^2}= \frac{a}{a^2+ b^2}- \frac{bi}{a^2+ b^2}= c+ di[/tex]
then
[tex]\frac{a}{a^2+ b^2}= c[/tex]
and
[tex]\frac{-b}{a^2+ b^2}= d[/tex]
no matter what you call them!
 

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