Finding Roots for a Challenging Polynomial Equation

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The polynomial equation x^4 + 4x^3 + 14x^2 + 4x + 13 presents challenges in finding roots due to its complexity. Initial attempts to factor it directly were unsuccessful, leading to discussions about rearranging terms and using the quadratic formula. Ultimately, a successful factorization was identified as (x^2 + 1)(x^2 + 4x + 13), revealing the roots are complex. The conversation highlights the utility of computational tools like MATLAB for solving such equations efficiently. The discussion emphasizes the importance of collaboration and leveraging existing mathematical knowledge.
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What are the ROots:

x^4+4x^3+14x^2=-4x-13

ok the 13 really causes a problem because you can't factor that.
So I move the right side to the left and then you can't find a number that fits so that it equals zero so I tried factoring it somehow but can't do it can someone help?
 
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That's a fairly evil problem to give you, but oh well (if I needed to solve it, I'd just throw it into maple and not think about it!).

It's written that way for a reason. Factor the left side and rearrange to change it to

x^2(x^2 + 4x + 14) + (4x + 13) = 0.

Do you see how to factor it now?
 
no lol

well i have to use the quadratic formula?
 
Yes, and all the roots are complex. Are you sure you don't see how to factor that? I'll rewrite it this way:

x^2(x^2 + 4x + 13) + x^2 + (4x + 13) = 0
 
i thought u were trying to lead me to grouping them to factor but doesn't look like that...

NEVER MIND HOLD ON IM RETARDED
 
Hey Data take a look :

(x^2+1)(x^2+4x+13)

?
 
looks good :smile:
 
<3 you :!)
 
in matlab:

>>p= x^4+4x^3+14x^2+4x+13;
>>roots(p)its very easy...heheh
 
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Yes, relying on the previous work of intelligent people is always the easiest way.
 

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