Finding speed from acceleration through a potential difference

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a proton accelerated through a potential difference of 77 MV. Initially, the user attempted to find the proton's speed using energy equations but encountered confusion regarding the gamma factor being less than one. The correct approach involves using the relativistic kinetic energy formula to find velocity. Additionally, there was a side discussion on calculating the Schwarzschild radius for a galaxy with a mass of 10^41 kg, emphasizing the importance of unit conversions for accuracy. Ultimately, the user successfully resolved their queries and achieved a perfect score on their assignment.
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I need help finding the speed of a proton in terms of c (speed of light) when all I have is an acceleration through a potential difference of 77 MV.

I started by saying this was 77,000,000 Volts, and then using PE = qV to solve for energy. I used E = mc^2 to find mass and used this and rest mass of a proton to find gamma by using m = mo(gamma). I found gamma to be less than one. How is this possible? What did I do wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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One should use the expression for relativistic kinetic energy;

E_{k}=m_{0}c^2(\gamma - 1)
 
but I need to find V, velocity.
 
Oh wait, I see what you're saying, I will try this and post again if I have not done it correctly again. Thank you
 
thanks very much, I got the question right. I have one more question if you are still around.
 
No problem, I'm still here.
 
Great, I was going to post a new topic but I didn't want to flood the board too much.

What is the Schwarzschild radius for a typical galaxy (with mass on the order of 10^41 kg)?

I do not understand the "with mass on the order of 10^41 kg"

I tried plugging (1e41) with the Schwarzschild radius formula but I got the wrong answer when I entered it into the test. I have one more response left so I need to get it right, thanks so much for the help so far, I'd be grateful if you could work with me on this one.
 
On the order of means exactly what you did. Off the order usually means powers of ten. If this is a webassign homework you probably know already, but you need to be very careful with the way you enter your answers (significant figures, units metres of kilometres etc). I've just done a quick calc myself and arrived at a radius of about 1.48x1014m.
 
Ah! that must be why! I got the same exact answer, but they want it in km. I did not realize the Schwarzschild radius formula is worked to give answers in meters. So, since my webassign quiz wants it in km, it should be, 1.48x10^11 km, correct?
 
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metalmagik said:
Ah! that must be why! I got the same exact answer, but they want it in km. I did not realize the Schwarzschild radius formula is worked to give answers in meters. So, since my webassign quiz wants it in km, it should be, 1.48x10^11 km, correct?
If your unsure check your units, assuming you entered everything into the equation in SI units;

R = \frac{2GM}{c^{2}} =\frac{(m^{3}kg^{-1}s^{-2})(kg)}{(ms^{-1})^2} = m

Assuming webassign wants it to 3sf then yes, your answer should be correct.
 
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got it right! 100% score wahoo

thanks a lot Hootenanny, thanks verryyy much for your time.
 
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metalmagik said:
got it right! 100% score wahoo
Well done mate. :approve:
metalmagik said:
thanks a lot Hootenanny, thanks verryyy much for your time.
My pleasure
 

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