Finding summation when given a fourier expansion of a function

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving a relationship involving the Fourier series of the function f(x) = x^2/4 for |x|<π. Participants are exploring the implications of using different values of x in the context of Fourier expansions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Parseval's theorem and the implications of evaluating the series at specific points, such as x=0 and x=π. There are questions about the continuity of the function and the correctness of derived results.

Discussion Status

Some participants are offering guidance on evaluating the Fourier series and questioning assumptions about periodicity and continuity. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to arrive at the desired summation.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the periodic nature of the function and the continuity at specific points, which affects the evaluation of the Fourier series. Participants are also navigating through potential mistakes in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



I have a function

f(x) = x^2/4 for |x|<π

I have the Fourier series of this function which is

gif.latex?\frac{\pi^{2}}{12}%20+%20\sum_{n=1}^{oo}%20\frac{%28-1%29^{n}}{n^{2}}%20cos%28nx%29.gif


and I need to prove that

gif.latex?\sum_{n=1}^{oo}%20\frac{1}{n^{2}}%20=%20\frac{\pi^{2}}{6}.gif


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to use dirichlet for x = 0 but I get -pi^2/3
 
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Have you tried Parsaval's theorem?
 
if I use parseval won't I get 1/n^4 instead of 1/n^2?
 
If you put in x=0 you get an alternating series. And I don't know how you got -pi^2/3. I get -pi^2/12 for the alternating series. Try putting x=pi if you don't want the series to alternate. Which you don't.
 
actually for x = 0 I said that since we want 1/n^2

instead of (-1)^n

I will have to use (-1)^2n

hence I will get a 1/4 in the right side of the equation and a -pi^2/12 in the left side

hence -4pi^2/12 will be the answer..

how did you find yours?

as for x = pi

indeed, it's not continuous in this point hence

I will have

(pi^2/4 + 0)/2 = pi^2/8

pi^2/8 = pi^2/12 + 1/4 * x => x = pi^2/6

indeed it's correct...

but can you please explain me how you found your answer?

thanks in advance
 
Jncik said:
actually for x = 0 I said that since we want 1/n^2

instead of (-1)^n

I will have to use (-1)^2n

hence I will get a 1/4 in the right side of the equation and a -pi^2/12 in the left side

hence -4pi^2/12 will be the answer..

how did you find yours?

as for x = pi

indeed, it's not continuous in this point hence

I will have

(pi^2/4 + 0)/2 = pi^2/8

pi^2/8 = pi^2/12 + 1/4 * x => x = pi^2/6

indeed it's correct...

but can you please explain me how you found your answer?

thanks in advance

Ok, now I see what you are thinking. And it's wrong. You can't just change to n to 2n. If you do that then you are only summing over the even terms in the Fourier series. So it's not equal to x^2/4 anymore. The way to do this is to notice cos(pi*n)=(-1)^n. Put x=pi to cancel the other (-1)^n. And why do you think the function is discontinuous anywhere? You are doing the Fourier expansion on [-pi,pi], aren't you??
 
i think that we assume that it's periodic... but I'm not sure...

yes I was wrong

but if I put x = pi and cancel them out won't the result be -pi^2/12?

isn't this wrong?
 
Jncik said:
i think that we assume that it's periodic... but I'm not sure...

yes I was wrong

but if I put x = pi and cancel them out won't the result be -pi^2/12?

isn't this wrong?

Certainly you assume it's periodic. That's what Fourier series are about. And yes, it's wrong. Could you explain why you think the answer is -pi^2/12?? Like, show your steps to get to that answer?
 
Oh I just made a silly mistake

I have

pi^2/4 = pi^2/12 + sum

sum = pi^2/4 - pi^2/12 = pi^2/6

instead of pi^2/4 I put 0, I got confused from what I said in my previous reply..

I understand it now, thanks a lot for your help :))
 

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