Finding tention of rope, accelerating box.

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The problem involves a 500N box being pulled by a rope at a 30-degree angle, with the box accelerating horizontally at 1.2 m/s². The discussion centers around applying Newton's second law to determine the tension in the rope, while considering the effects of friction and the normal force.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law to find the tension in the rope, considering forces in both the x and y directions. Some participants question the treatment of the normal force, suggesting it is not simply equal to the weight of the box due to the angle of the rope.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the angle of the rope on the normal force and frictional force. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct interpretation of forces acting on the box, particularly regarding how the tension in the rope affects the normal force.

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There is a mention of the kinetic friction coefficient and the assumption that the problem takes place on Earth, but the exact context of the normal force's calculation remains under discussion.

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A 500N box is pulled is pulled by a rope at a 30 degree angle. Box accelerates at 1.2 m/s^2, horizontally, with kinetic frictional coefficient = 0.4 Find tension of rope.

Now, I'd have to be using Newton's second law, here.

Since there is no acceleration on the y axis: sum of forces_y = ma = 0

Now, as for the forces on the x axis, I thought I would need to do something like this, to find the tension of the rope. Let T = tension of rope.

As the box weights 500N, and although g was not defined, I'd have to guess that this was on Earth and that mass = 500N / (9.8m/s^2) = 51kg.

sum of forces_x = Tcos(30°) - 0.4(500N) = (51kg)*(1.2m/s^2)

T = 302N Would this be correct?

Thanks,
John
 
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Because the rope is at an angle, the normal force is not simply the weight of the box!
 
Nabeshin said:
Because the rope is at an angle, the normal force is not simply the weight of the box!

What does the normal force have to do with this problem? Although the rope is at an angle, the box remains parallel with the x-axis, so f_gravity = 500N would be equivalent, but opposite direction, to the normal, but again I don't see how this applies in the context of my problem.

If you could please elaborate, that would be great.
John
 
I mention the normal force because the frictional force is equal to the product of the normal force and coefficient of friction. You used the normal force to be merely the weight of the box, which is not the case. You seem comfortable saying the rope exerts a force of Tcos(30) in the x, but it also exerts a force in the y!
 

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