Finding the base and dimension of a system of equations

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The discussion revolves around finding the base and dimension of a system of linear equations represented in matrix form. The equations involve four variables and three equations, leading to questions about the implications of row reduction and the nature of the solution set.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the process of row reduction and its significance in determining the dimension of the solution set. Questions arise about the meaning of identical rows in the matrix and how they affect the solution. There is also a clarification about the terminology used regarding "base and dimension."

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of their findings and questioning the original poster's understanding of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the problem and the row reduction process, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the formatting of the matrix and the interpretation of the results from row operations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their proficiency in linear algebra, which may affect their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the base and dimension of a system of equations:

3x1 - 5x2 + 2x3 + 4x4 = 0
7x1 - 4x2 + 1x3 + 3x4 = 0
5x1 + 7x2 - 4x3 - 6x4 = 0

2. The attempt at a solution

Written in matrix form:

3 -5 2 4
7 -4 1 3
5 7 -4 -6

What I get:

11 -3 0 2
7 -4 1 3
11 -3 0 2

so, that's two identical rows. That means there's an infinite number of solutions, I think. What gives? I'm lost. Any help to solving this exercise is appreciated
 
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What do you mean you "got" that? How did you get it? Did you do a row reduction? Typically one does a row reduction to get the first column
\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}


Also, you don't mean "find the base and dimension" of the system of equations. You mean to find the dimension of the solution set of the system of equations.
 
I'm not very good at this subject, as you can see. Yes, I did row operations on the matrix. I just wanted to know if having two identical rows in a matrix can help in solving this kind of exercise, but I guess not.

Maybe this would look clearer?:

3 -5 2 4 = 3 -5 2 4 = 3 -5 2 4 = 1 -5/3 2/3 4/3
7 -4 1 3 = 21 -12 3 9 = 0 23 -11 -19 = 0 23 -11 -19 = 0 23 -11 -19
5 7 -4 -6 = 15 21 -12 -18 = 0 46 -22 -38 = 0 23 -11 -19 0 23 -11 -19

Is this correct? What next? Like I said, I'm not good at linear algebra :frown:

I can't believe it, the whitespace seems to be ignored in the posts... The answer is in bold, a two rows, 4 columns matrix.
 
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Okay, so that reduces to
\begin{bmatrix}1 & -5 & 2 & 4 \\ 0 & 23 & -11 & -19 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\end{bmatrix}
 

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