Finding the Center of Mass for a Loaded Ferryboat on a Square Raft

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The problem involves determining the center of mass for a loaded ferryboat, specifically a square raft with cars positioned at its corners. The raft has a uniform mass and dimensions, while the cars have specified masses and locations relative to the raft.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the center of mass in two dimensions, considering both x and y axes. There is an emphasis on the correct placement of the coordinate system and the distances from the center of the raft to the cars.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the assumptions about the coordinate system and the distances involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct coordinates for the cars based on the raft's dimensions.

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There is a focus on ensuring that the origin of the coordinate system is correctly placed at the center of the raft, and participants are verifying the distances from this center to the corners where the cars are located.

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Homework Statement


A square uniform raft, 18m by 18m of mass 6200kg is used as a ferry boat. if three cars each of mass 1350 kg occupy the NE, SE, and SW corners, determine the Centre of mass of the loaded ferryboat relative to the centre of the raft



Homework Equations


Center of mass (CM) = \sum mixi/M
where M = m1 + m2...mn




The Attempt at a Solution


The centre of mass i think, is going to be two-dimensional i.e x-axis and y-axis
So i drew my co-ordinate system and came up with the following

CM(x-axis) = 1350(18) + 1350(18) +1350(-18)/3(1350)+6200 = 2.3i

The -18 is for the SW car where x is negative.

CM(y-axis) = 1350(18) + 1350(-18) +1350(-18)/3(1350) + 6200= -2.3j

i have two -18's coz for the SW and NW where y is negative..

I used 18 as the distance for all three cars since the raft is 18m by 18m. But my solution is wrong. Please any help will be very appreciated. Thanks
 
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fiziks09 said:
I used 18 as the distance for all three cars since the raft is 18m by 18m.
Put the origin of your coordinate system in the center of the raft.
 
Okay... i already had that in mind while drawing up that solution. Am i missing something??
 
fiziks09 said:
Okay... i already had that in mind while drawing up that solution. Am i missing something??
There are 4 masses involved--the raft and the three cars. Measured from the center of the raft, what are their coordinates?
 
Doc Al said:
There are 4 masses involved--the raft and the three cars. Measured from the center of the raft, what are their coordinates?

Well i think that

the raft has (0,0)
the NE car has (18,18)
the SE car has (18,-18)
the SW car has (-18,-18)
 
fiziks09 said:
Well i think that

the raft has (0,0)
Good.
the NE car has (18,18)
the SE car has (18,-18)
the SW car has (-18,-18)
No. 18m is the length of the sides of the raft. What's the distance from the center to the sides?
 
ohh.. that would be half the distance right?... which is 9m
 
fiziks09 said:
ohh.. that would be half the distance right?... which is 9m
Yes, now you're cooking. So redo your calculations.
 
yeah its perfectly okay now.. Thanks a bunch for figuring it out.
 

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