Finding the Center of Mass in a Tank with Muddy Suspension | Homework Equations

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The discussion revolves around finding the center of mass of a tank shaped like the lower hemisphere of a sphere with radius R, filled with a muddy suspension whose density varies with height. Participants are exploring how to determine the height function and the appropriate limits of integration for the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to define the height function h(x,y,z) and question whether it should be R or z + R. There is discussion about the limits of integration for the lower hemisphere and the implications of the density function on the integration process.

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Some participants have provided insights into the setup of the problem, including the use of cylindrical coordinates and the relationship between the height and the coordinates. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these setups, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and assumptions regarding the height function and the limits of integration, which may affect the overall approach to the problem. There are indications of confusion regarding the integration process and the behavior of the density function.

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Homework Statement


Let Ω be a tank whose shape is that of the lower hemisphere of radius R. The tank with a muddy suspension whose density ρ is ρ(x,y,z):=e^-h(x,y,z), where h(x,y,z) is the height of (x,y,z) above the lowest point of the tank. Find the center of mass in the tank

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First of all, how does one determine the height, h(x,y,z)? I guess it would be R but I am not able to give a reasoning to my guess. I would appreciate if someone could give me a graphical illustration on how to find the limits of integration for this problem as well. Thanks
 
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Alright following the my notes so far which had a sort of similar but different question, I guess that the height is z+R? Assuming if this is right, the limits of integration will be [0,R]x[-Pi/2, 0]x[0,2*Pi] (since we are looking at the lower hemisphere).
However, if I try to calculate the first moments M_yz, I got the integrand as 0 at some point. Maybe this indicates that I am moving in the wrong direction?
 
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If you set this up so the hemisphere is the lower half of a sphere of radius R with center at (0,0,0), then the lowest point is (0, 0, R) and the "height above the lowest point" of (x,y,z) is R+ z (z is negative, of course).

[tex]e^{-h}= e^{-R-z}= e^{-R}e^{-z}[/tex].

The equation of the hemisphere is [tex]z= \sqrt{R^2- x^2- y^2}[/tex].

Squaring both sides of that gives [itex]x^2- y^2= z^2- R^2[/itex] which is the equation of a cross section of the hemisphere at that height. Since the density is a function of z, that will be helpful in integrating. Since that is a circle for all z, I would recommend doing the integration in cylindrical coordinates.
 
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If you set this up so the hemisphere is the lower half of a sphere of radius R with center at (0,0,0), then the lowest point is (0, 0, R) and the "height above the lowest point" of (x,y,z) is R+ z (z is negative, of course).

[tex]e^{-h}= e^{-R-z}= e^{-R}e^{-z}[/tex].

The equation of the hemisphere is [tex]z= \sqrt{R^2- x^2- y^2}[/tex].

Squaring both sides of that gives [itex]x^2- y^2= z^2- R^2[/itex] which is the equation of a cross section of the hemisphere at that height. Since the density is a function of z, that will be helpful in integrating. Since that is a circle for all z, I would recommend doing the integration in cylindrical coordinates.

Ah, too late for correction. But I had the same approach as yours. I was considering cylindrical coordinates but I was having trouble with finding the limits (spherical one as well).
 

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