Finding the equation of a plane given two lines

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The problem involves finding the equation of a plane that contains two given lines in three-dimensional space. The lines are expressed in vector form, and the original poster attempts to derive the plane's equation using the cross product of the direction vectors of the lines.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equivalence of different forms of the plane's equation, questioning the uniqueness of the representation. The original poster's approach using the cross product is noted, and there are inquiries about the simplification of the resulting equation.

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The discussion is exploring the relationship between different equations of the same plane. Some participants provide insights into the nature of plane equations and their equivalence, while others express confusion about the implications of uniqueness in this context.

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There are references to specific forms of plane equations and the implications of multiplying by constants, indicating a need for clarity on how these transformations affect the representation of the plane.

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Homework Statement


Find an equation of the plane that contains these lines:
r=<1,1,0>+t<1,-1,2>
r=<2,0,2>+s<-1,1,0>

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The Attempt at a Solution


I took the cross product of <1,-1,2> and <-1,1,0> to get <-2,-2,0>.
I used the point (1,1,0) to get the equation of the plane:
-2(x-1)-2(y-1)=0

But the correct answer is supposed to be x+y=2.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could show me what I'm doing wrong. Thanks!
 
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-2(x-1)-2(y-1)=0 and x+y=2 are the same plane. Can you figure out a way to show that?
 
Your answer simplifies to x + y = 2.
 
As with equations of lines in three dimensions, it should be noted that there is not a unique equation for a given plane.
 
glebovg said:
As with equations of lines in three dimensions, it should be noted that there is not a unique equation for a given plane.

I thought that is only true for planes in the form of

a(x - x_0) + b(y - y_0) + c(z - z0) = 0

but not for a'x + b'y + c'z = d
 
There are various ways of describing a plane. The two equations you provided are essentially equivalent.
 
glebovg said:
There are various ways of describing a plane. The two equations you provided are essentially equivalent.

No, but the first one, you can choose any intercept and it can still be reduced to my second one. By just observation the first one "isn't unique", even though the answer will be the same.
 
Since there are infinitely many points on the plane you may choose any point as long as it is on the plane.
 
flyingpig said:
I thought that is only true for planes in the form of

a(x - x_0) + b(y - y_0) + c(z - z0) = 0

but not for a'x + b'y + c'z = d

For the second form you can still multiply by any constant and it's the same plane. That's not quite unique.
 
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If you multiply it by a constant what you obtain is a different equation of the plane.
 

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