Finding the Equation of a Tangent Line and Limits for a Curve

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a tangent line and calculating limits for the curve defined by the function f(x) = (2x-1)^4. Participants are tasked with determining the area bounded by the curve, the x-axis, and the tangent line at a specific point on the curve.

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  • Participants discuss finding the equation of the tangent line and its intersection with the x-axis. There are questions about identifying turning points and the bounds for integration. Some members express frustration over the clarity of the problem statement and the use of attachments.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the problem and establish the bounds for integration. Some participants have provided calculations and insights, while others are questioning assumptions and interpretations of the integral's limits. There is no explicit consensus on the final approach or solution yet.

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Homework Statement


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Ok so the first thing you want to do is find the equation of the tangent line which is done in the usual way to get ##y=8x-7##. This cuts the ##x## axis at ##x=\frac{7}{8}## so we know the upper limit of the integral to calculate.
Is ##P## a turning point if not how do I find it?
 

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squenshl said:
See attached.
Can't read the very small print. write out a problem statement, sort out what you are supposed to do !
 
I"m having the same problem. When you ask someone to do you a favor, like answer a question, it's not a good idea to make it really hard for them to help you.
 
I seem to read it fine once I open the attachment.
It is asking given we have ##f(x) = (2x-1)^4##. The curve meets the ##x##-axis at a point ##P## and the line on the graph is a tangent to the curve at the point ##Q(1,1)##.
Find the area of the region bounded by the curve, the ##x##-axis, and the tangent to the curve at ##Q##.
 
squenshl said:
I seem to read it fine once I open the attachment.
It is asking given we have ##f(x) = (2x-1)^4##. The curve meets the ##x##-axis at a point ##P## and the line on the graph is a tangent to the curve at the point ##Q(1,1)##.
Find the area of the region bounded by the curve, the ##x##-axis, and the tangent to the curve at ##Q##.

I cannot read it once I open the attachment.

Anyway, the PF standard is that the person wanting help takes the trouble to type out the problem and the work done so far, reserving attachments for things like diagrams and perhaps tables, etc. Read the Guidelines for more on this issue.
 
Ok I found the equation of the tangent curve in the standard way to get ##y=8x-7## which cuts the x-axis at ##x=\frac{7}{8}##.
To find P I found the x coordinate Of the turning point which is ##x=0.5## so now we have our bounds of our integral so we just calculate ##\int_{0.5}^{7/8} (2x-1)^4-8x+7 \; dx##.
I get ##0.5862##.
 
My problem is that I need to set the magnification for Chrome to such a high value that all other screens become useless.
And all that because you don't want to type out the problem statement, which is quite straightforward an clear.
Good thing you found the 0.5 by yourself, as well as the 7/8.
But in the figure I clearly see there is a part of the integral between 7/8 and 1
And I also see the integral between 0.5 and 7/8 is not how you describe it...:rolleyes:

All this would have come out if you re-typed the problem statement and formulated what to do to find the answer in your own words, which is why using the template is so useful that it is compulsory in PF
 
squenshl said:
Member warned to type the problem statement, not just post an image with type that is too small to read

Homework Statement


See attached.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so the first thing you want to do is find the equation of the tangent line which is done in the usual way to get ##y=8x-7##. This cuts the ##x## axis at ##x=\frac{7}{8}## so we know the upper limit of the integral to calculate.
Is ##P## a turning point if not how do I find it?
P is the point where the curve meets the x axis. Can you find it?
 
ehild said:
P is the point where the curve meets the x axis. Can you find it?
Yes it’s ##x=0.5##.
 
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Good. That is the lower bound of the integral. What is the upper bound ?
 
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BvU said:
Good. That is the lower bound of the integral. What is the upper bound ?
I’m thinking it’s where the tangent function cuts the ##x##-axis which is when ##8x-7=0##, or ##x=\frac{7}{8}##.
 
  • #12
Oops no it isn’t that will be ##x=1##.
 
  • #13
So that means I solve ##\int_{0.5}^{1} (2x-1)^4 -8x + 7 \; dx## in which case I get ##0.6##?
 
  • #14
Don't jump to conclusions -- they aren't interesting anyway. Do you see a difference between the regions 0.5 -- 7/8 and 7/8 -- 1 ?
 
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squenshl said:
So that means I solve ##\int_{0.5}^{1} (2x-1)^4 -8x + 7 \; dx## in which case I get ##0.6##?
As a kind of check:
Cut a piece of paper of 1 in x and 0.6 in y and compare its area with the shaded area :smile:
 
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BvU said:
As a kind of check:
Cut a piece of paper of 1 in x and 0.6 in y and compare its area with the shaded area :smile:
Hold up.
I can just calculate ##\int_{0.5}^{1} (2x-1)^4 \; dx=0.1##.
Then calculate ##\int_{7/8}^{1} 8x-7 \; dx=0.0625##.
Now take the difference to get ##\frac{3}{80}=0.0375##.
 
  • #17
As long as you see that there are two parts, things go fine -- and that's the important part of what you've learned from this exercise.
Now that you have an answer and are happy, try the next one !
 

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