Equation of Curve Tangent to Line at Given Point

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The problem involves finding the equation of a curve defined by the second derivative y'' = 8, with the condition that the curve is tangent to the line y = 11x at the point (2, 22).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of tangency, specifically that the curve must pass through the point (2, 22) and have the same slope as the line at that point. There is confusion about how to apply the conditions of tangency to the derivatives and the constants involved in the equation of the curve.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the curve's derivatives and the conditions given in the problem. Some have suggested that the curve's slope at the point of tangency must equal the slope of the line, while others are questioning how to determine the constants in the equation of the curve based on the provided conditions.

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There is uncertainty regarding the application of the second derivative and how it relates to the first derivative and the constants in the equation. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the approach to solving for the constants without additional information.

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Homework Statement



Find the equation of the curve for which y'' = 8 if the curve is tangent to the line y = 11x at (2, 22).

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The Attempt at a Solution


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y' = 8x + c1

y = 4x2 + c1x + c2

What exactly is the question asking me to do, especially with the y = 11x bit? ∫ydx?
 
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Alexandra Fabiello said:

Homework Statement



Find the equation of the curve for which y'' = 8 if the curve is tangent to the line y = 11x at (2, 22).

Homework Equations



?

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
y' = 8x + c1

y = 4x2 + c1x + c2

What exactly is the question asking me to do, especially with the y = 11x bit? ∫ydx?

It wants your curve to be tangent at (2,22). That means it must pass through that point and have the same slope there as the line.
 
LCKurtz said:
It wants your curve to be tangent at (2,22). That means it must pass through that point and have the same slope there as the line.

But doesn't tangent mean derivative in this case? My curve should have a slope of 11 at (2,22), fine; how does that apply to y'' and y' and y as I said? My curve would be y, right, because y'' = 8 is the double derivative of that? How to solve it with two different constants, then?
 
You have two constants with which you can make the curve agree with point and slope.
 
LCKurtz said:
You have two constants with which you can make the curve agree with point and slope.

So y = 4x2 + c1x + c2 = 11? Without knowing the slope for y', how can we solve for this?

I mean, so far, I've got -4x2 - c1x + 11 = c2, but now what?
 
You have ##y = 4x^2 + c_1x + c_2## with two unknown constants. What do the constants have to be so that ##y(2) = 22## and ##y'(2) = 11##?
 
LCKurtz said:
You have ##y = 4x^2 + c_1x + c_2## with two unknown constants. What do the constants have to be so that ##y(2) = 22## and ##y'(2) = 11##?

Oh, y' = 11 as well? Because y = 11x is a line?
 
There's really nothing more to tell you without working it for you. Just do it.
 
LCKurtz said:
There's really nothing more to tell you without working it for you. Just do it.

Got it. WileyPlus accepted my answer.

So basically, being tangent to a line means y' = 11 at that x-value, so it's solvable. If someone else asks a similar question, answer like that, and it might just make a lot more sense to them.
 

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